Drinking Alcohol - 18 years old

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  1. friedtwk

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    Hey all,

    I am currently an 18 year old college football player. I turn 19 in two weeks. I have never had a drink of alcohol, gotten drunk, gone to a party, or smoked weed. However, almost all of my friends and family drink and I have been tempted and offered to do so several times. I am a pretty devout Catholic and I believe that I should stay sober, and follow the law, and not drink till I am 21. I know a lot of people think I am a loser for doing so and thinking like that. Also, being a college football player, I don't drink because I don't want it to affect my athletic performance, although I am not sure how much it will. I also think it is kind of sad how people have to rely on drugs and alcohol for a temporary effect to pick up girls, become more social and have fun. I feel like people feel like they are at a high point when they are drunk, but the next morning it's gone and they are hungover. But I hear all the time how I am not living and having fun in college. I also hear how much fun it is and how a lot of guys pick up girls when drunk and at parties. But anyways, I have been considering drinking alcohol or just trying it out or experimenting with it. Do you think I should? How old were you when you first started drinking alcohol? Was it worth it/enjoyable? If I do decide to drink, do you have any tips for my first time?
     
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  2. I think you have your head screwed on completely correctly in understanding how yes, it can affect your performance, judgement, etc. I do drink (I'm of age), but I don't drink to get drunk. I also don't drink because I'm being more social. When I go out with my best friends, I may get a beer. I may get a water. But my friends are not going to give me a hard time about it. If they were the type of people who gave me crap about it, they wouldn't be my friends. Drinking isn't that important.

    Do what you feel is right for you. But don't bow to peer pressure.
     
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  3. Gotham Outlaw

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    I haven't acquired a taste for it. I tried it a couple times and thought if I don't like it I'm not going to brainwash myself into liking it. I would sometimes use it for cooking, like beer can chicken.
     
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  4. MLMVSS

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    Alcohol isn't only an acquired taste, but it's an expensive habit, it's addictive, it can lead to bad judgment, and alcohol abuse leads to detrimental effects on the body, whether temporary (drunkenness/nausea) or long-term (liver scarring). As an athlete, I sincerely believe you don't want to go down that path. It's not worth it in my opinion.
     
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  5. Nomar

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    There’s really nothing of value in alcohol honestly. Keep treating your body right, especially as an athlete.
     
  6. Poseidon

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    Alcoholics are losers, not you.
     
  7. TARS

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    I personally abstain from alcohol. I want to focus on what I value in life and walk in the right direction. I am not doing those things if I am focusing on drinking. I also don't want to commit any act I would regret or not normally engage in.

    It's tempting to want to let go and follow the majority. But, I'd rather stand up for my values and be proud.

    I'm a Christian, and I want to strive to walk by the Spirit. The word 'drunkenness' as an act of the flesh below was once a challenge for me to change and follow God first.

    Galatians 5
    13You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh ; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

    16So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

    19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
     
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  8. Houston we have a problem

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    If you don't start, you'll never have trouble quitting

    I will be 26 in less than 2 months. I have never smoked, drank, or done any drugs, that includes weed.

    I look around and see people with screwed up lives due to drugs and alcohol, or people who want to quit smoking and are struggling. I can rest easily every night knowing I have no problems because I didn't invite those things into my life and have no plans to ever do so.

    If only I never invited P into my life, I wouldn't be here
     
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  9. You're not a loser for not drinking man. I pissed half my life away with drinking and drugs. Drink if u wanne drink but wait till u are an adult(real adult , with a job and family) then make your own decision. a lot of peers that are drinking now will be sorry in 20 years.some of them will be fine, some of them will surely not be fine.some of them will be dead even . we adults all have friends that became addicted and ruined their lives and families. especially if u have genetic disposition for addiction i wouldnt take a risk but thats for you to know.choice is yours . be successful, u wont need alcohol for getting beautiful good women.
     
  10. Never drank, all my colleagues drink, I will never drink.
    It's stupid.
     
  11. JesusGreen

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    If you want to drink? Okay, but do so in moderation.

    If you feel no motivation to drink, then why on earth would you even consider it? Why would you indulge in a potentially harmful habit just because you feel like everyone else is doing it and you want to fit in? That's silly, that's literally playing into the overblown stereotypes they talk about in drug classes. You should make your own decisions. If you're concerned that drinking will become a bad habit for you, and affect your performance etc, then why start?

    It's not like the opportunity is disappearing either. You can have your first drink today, a year from now, 5 years from now, 10 years from now. Alcohol isn't going to suddenly disappear any time soon. So if you're unsure about drinking, don't drink, simple as that. You can always decide to try alcohol later if you actually have a reason to and feel like it's a smart decision - no point in indulging when you're unsure.
     
  12. wethebest

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    Aha. The first time I actually got drunk was after school when I was in 5th grade. I drank 1 1/2 Heinekens and almost puked (I was smaller then).

    Alcohol is poison. You drink it and then get intoxicated. If you've never been drunk before it'll be really fun, just take it somewhat slow (medium pace).

    I love the taste of beer and have always loved taking drugs and smoking weed. Recently I haven't been for personal reasons. But drugs and alc have always facsinated me. I always extensively looked up drugs before taking them. I love the psychological and chemical breakdown of them.

    But, @friedtwk , alcohol being 21&up is a made up law only set in america. Just an imaginary rule. Also, nowhere in the bible is drinking alc bad behavior. Some would argue it's encouraged.

    It's just like anything though, if you do too much than it becomes a problem.

    You mentioned weed, make sure your athletics don't drug test. If not, then you should know that weed is virtually harmless and actually beneficial in numerous ways in athletics.

    I'm not gonna talk about harder drugs. But recognize they aren't all deathly chemicals like they are portrayed.

    Just do your homework I would say
     
  13. wethebest

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    Drinking at the age of 18 wouldn't be more harmful if you did at 21. If anything, wait until your 25 to when your brain is fully developed, if you are going with that logic.

    The law being 18 are all state laws that the federal government blackmailed the states, "if you make the law 18&up, then we are going to take away your highway funding."

    Every single other country is 18up or even less. That rule is a fugazi.

    Drunk driving cases have decreased but only around the time in the past 5-6 years where the cops stepped up their DUI game/penalties.
     
  14. tweeby

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    UK is 18, I remember for my 18th birthday I told my friends I would drink 18 pints when we went out, that's the last thing I remembered, that and waking up in hospital LOL.
     
  15. Mankrik

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    I'm 18 got a fake and drink regularly. I don't recommend it though. It is a lot of fun but it does not mix with sports or good academic performance. Gotta live though. If you want to do. If you dont then dont. Do what you want YOLO.
     
  16. If you do decide to drink, do so with caution. Make sure that you are with people that you know well and trust. A young inexperienced person like yourself can be vulnerable in an intoxicated state and it could escalate into a life threatening situation. Remember to take it slow and test the waters. Have your more experienced trustworthy friends keep an eye on you.
     
  17. zig

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    I partied a lot in college and honestly you're not missing out on too much. I mean, what could be better than having toxic, flammable liquid course through your vains? but yeah it's definitely not good for athletes man. I had to quit drinking when I got serious about weight lifting because it was fucking with my gains.
     
  18. Slamex

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    As a UK resident I don't have the stigma of having to wait till I was 21 to drink. I found once I turned 18 the thrill of underage drinking was lost and it became a social norm. I don't think you'd lose any ability unless you let yourself if you drank now, and by that I mean over indulgent. Same with anything.
    You don't have to drink because your friends drink, don't give into peer pressure. But remember it's your choice if you want to experiment, that's what college is about, just dont let it take hold of you.
     
  19. Houston we have a problem

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    While not drinking alcohol isn't mentioned, the bible does mention multiple times that you should NOT get drunk or partake in debauchery.

    I sense a lot of anger in your post... Then again, you say you love taking drugs, so I'll let it go.

    the underage DUI and underage DUI homicide rate in America is extremely high. Ask me, and the drinking age should be raised to 25+, and we need stricter rules for the rule breakers to reduce the DUI homicides.
     
  20. JustinX

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    omg this is a company.
    Listen guys I give you advice of your life how not to become addicted to anything (alcohol/weed/pornography/fucking prostitutes/etc)

    1. if you going to do something (drink alcohol or smoke weed or anything) always ask yourself why you are doing it: is this a coping mechanism or is it a mean of connecting? If you had shitty, stressful day and only thing you are thinking is go home and to drink/smoke/fuck/maturbate to cope with it. Then dont do it. That is addictive.
    If you are meeting a friends, and you want to just connect better with them, have better time and memories and Not to cope with anything then do it. This is not harmful. It is like going to the cinema - you might have better time in the cinnema with friends then if you would staying at home, but obviously you shouldn't go to the cinema every single day as coping mechanism for shitty life. This would be also harmful.

    2. You have to have clear boundaries and stick with them. Say yourself I am going to drink only 4 times in month and smoke weed only once in 3 weeks. (these are mine own, choose your own ideally based on research). And never break these boundaries, doesnt matter what: if you already smoke weed this week then do not smoke again until the boundary time passes and it doesnt matter if your friend invited you, woman you likes want to smoke with you or even if your mum or jesus christ alone would invite you for joint, be tough and say no. This is crucial.

    So if you stick to above two rules there is no way how you can become addicted. Those things become your servants not your masters.

    PS: I am drinking from 13 old (originally from eastern Europe - that is pretty normal there),now 29, never broke those rules for alcohol or drugs and never got addicted to those two. Although to be honest I am taking them now even less frequent then are my boundaries (drinking once per 2 weeks), weed once per month, ecstasy once per six months (music concerts are just 100x better with it). So I am totally okey without them, but from time to time should treat yourself visiting the cinema with friends. Nothing wrong with that.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2018

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