Does Semen Retention Result In Female Attraction or Is It Dopamine?

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by 31shotscrazy, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. 31shotscrazy

    31shotscrazy Fapstronaut

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    Hi, so I've been hearing people all over nofap reporting significant changes in female behaviour towards them - namely, alot of attention/attraction and this "theory" is more or less fact due to Pheromones.

    But I'm a noob at this and lately i have been peaking at porn (I already know I shouldn't) so alot of dopamine has already been released, and conservation of dopamine is the centre of all nofap benifits?

    Would edging or peeking at porn make you lose this so-called "magnetism" of female attraction due to large amounts of dopamine released or is it solely to do with preservation of semen that results in more female attraction?

    I need help here guys.
     
  2. James232

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    There has to be more than just dopamine; the science says dopamine returns to normal after 14 days. There at deifnite behavioral changes that occur when you decide to quit PMO. A lot of it is subconscious stuff that we don't realize we're doing.
     
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  3. TodayBeforeTomorrow

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    31shotscrazy... have you peeked at porn in the past 6 days? If so, I am sorry, but you must be tough on your mind and throw a relapse flag on yourself. Addict mind will convince you a peek is okay. Then its a glance. Then its a look. Then its a looksie. Then it's a glare. Then it's a stare. Then... Get my point?
     
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  4. Orlando Aponte

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    All of this is pseudoscientific. The only reason people report more female attention during Nofap is because they become more confident and interested in women themselves. Semen retention does nothing. Dopamine is far too complex. No one really understands it, and the role it plays is far too convoluted for anyone without an extensive scientific background to make conjectures about. There are arguments that women can "smell" testosterone, but the simple fact is that Nofap has no effect on your testosterone levels. If you don't believe me, just perform a self-experiment and get tested every week of your recovery. Then, get 1000 other people to do this with you, plot the results, and you have something resembling a study.
     
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  5. DemonSemen

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    Semen Retention. I don't know why but that makes me chuckle. Maybe b/c it sounds so clinical.

    Not constantly busting nuts keeps our dopamine at normalMoe dos so it gets released when it is supposed to--like when you see an attractive woman or thick hottie with a scrumptious booty. That's supposed to activate a dopamine hit so we want to engage them, have sex and plant our seed like the primal beasts we are! But fapping all the time fucks that up and gets all off balance giving us all kinds of foggy thoughts, uncertainty, depression, etc. No way you're gonna look like a boss and charm ladies with that shit in your head.

    But when your mind's right and you are balanced--ladies notice and you respond.

    So keep on retaining that semen. It allows you to exhibit characteristics of virility, confidence and capability.

    Hers to saving nuts and letting the mojo flow instead.
     
  6. James232

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    I can't speak for anyone else but I definitely notice a difference in the way I carry myself when I get a long streak going. When you understand the subtleties of body language of 'alpha males' or dominant men, which is what 90~% of women are attracted to naturally, it isn't a far stretch to assume how much some subtle differences in how you carry yourself can make when attracting women. Most guys wouldn't even realize these differences; and I doubt women notice them consciously either. I've just done way too much studying into the psychology of body language I suppose.
     
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  7. 31shotscrazy

    31shotscrazy Fapstronaut

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    I'll just reset the counter fml
     
  8. 31shotscrazy

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    Thank you guys for the responses, i also peeked today in the morning. So you know what? Fuck it, im gonna reset the counter!
     
  9. TodayBeforeTomorrow

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    Excellent 31shotscrazy!!! you are doing the right thing. Good for you, we are proud. You are winning half the battle of self-awareness. Now push forward and gain self-control. Read more resources on how to fill up all the free time you have. I like to recommend learning to cook a healthy meal. You got to spend that time doing something else.
     
  10. Hitto

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    I'm noticing it too lol I'm just walking around with head up smiling looking people in the face joking around more and I'm realizing and picking up on when women are flirting with me
     
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  11. STAR DUST

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    NO ITS THE REAL DEAL MY FRIEND!
     
  12. TodayBeforeTomorrow

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    I concur. My head is up on a swivel. I rarely walked this way before. Amazing what you can see when you keep your eyes up and not at the ground or staring into a smartphone. I'm feeling calmer too.
     
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  13. sfmark12

    sfmark12 Fapstronaut

    Semen retention does not result in female attraction, not real.
     
  14. TodayBeforeTomorrow

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    YOU'RE TRIGGERING ME!!! :)
     
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  15. DemonSemen

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    Sorry. Shoulda Spoiler-ed that. Now I'm thinking about. Goddammit.
     
  16. 31shotscrazy

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    Okay, care to explain why many and I mean MANY nofap users have experienced this phenomenon? There has been COUNTLESS reports of people who abstain from pmo for a few weeks reporting on having experienced this female attraction thing!?
     
  17. sfmark12

    sfmark12 Fapstronaut

    Probably because they are appreciating women more. Dude some of these posts I've seen about female attraction sounds like a fantasy. So far I am 52 days of hard mode. I have not spilled my "seed" and I don't get it. What I have notice while abstaining from PMO is that I interest in women. I wish a woman would come up to me and give me their number randomly like those stories I see but it doesn't happen. It's all placebo.
     
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  18. 31shotscrazy

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    Ah man that sucks - I'm not gonna come up here and state that i have experienced this shit but I'm sorry, I just really doubt that 100s of 1000s of people stating a similar thing could be labled as "placebo". Or at least there HAS to be something going on that correlates to this so called "female magnetism".
     
  19. Orlando Aponte

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    When you regularly consume porn, you are less interested in women. When you abstain, you become more interested in women. Consequently, you become more aware of them, and more aware of them noticing you. The reports are over-exaggerated anyway. Most guys don't have the self-awareness to differentiate between a girl being nice to them and a girl actually expressing romantic/sexual interest. By this logic, if the entire adult male population stopped ejaculating, women would become magnetically attracted to all of them? Attraction is a very complex thing in general, and female attraction even more so because it is less grounded in that which is visual. I've never noticed a difference between not ejaculating for 80 days vs not ejaculating for 1 day. Even now at 190 days with no porn or masturbation, there is no difference in how attracted women are to me in the present compared to 190 days ago. I wouldn't say it's strictly placebo effect, but the effect stems purely from your increased interest in the women around you, not the actual retention of semen.
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2017

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