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Does balooning have any disadvantages?

Discussion in 'New to NoFap' started by Haxton_superman, Jul 3, 2015.

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  1. Jul 3, 2015 #1
    Haxton_superman

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    Hi!

    as far as i know balooning is nothing different than masturbating but always stopping before you ejaculate/get orgsam (pre-ejculation-drop does not count as far as I know...) - does this have any disadvantages regards to al lthe advantages no-Fapping will have longterm?

    Or does it have even advantages and is superior to pure no-fapping cause you as well not will experience orgasm throughout masturbation without a real connection to another person, but you on the other side can train your sexual stamina and control....

    what you think?

    Best Regards,
    Haxton
     
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  2. Jul 3, 2015 #2
    Arley

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    um … no, no, and no
     
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  3. Jul 3, 2015 #3
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    Hmm, ballooning. I do not know what you are talking about Haxton. I did a quick search and I cannot find any information on it. Please provide a reference, thank you.
     
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  4. Jul 3, 2015 #4
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  5. Jul 3, 2015 #5
    Icyweb

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    It still produces abnormally high levels of dopamine, which are addicting and messes up your brains wiring; and it still takes a part of sex and reduces it to a selfish antisocial act that can consume large amounts of time, so I would say yeah, it's just as bad.
    You can train your sexual stamina with your wife during sex and through focusing on breathing.
     
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  6. Jul 4, 2015 #6
    Arley

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    From what I can guess you're referring to the idea that having an orgasm without another person present and the subsequent release of oxytocin can cause very negative or even borderline traumatic kinds of experiences. This is because while oxytocin is a "love/bonding" hormone, it also seems to have the power to make negative intimate situations worse. It kind of mediates intimacy emotions. Sure … i suppose not having an orgasm might be beneficial in that way - though I wouldn't real know. However, what you are calling "ballooning" sounds like what I call "edging" … basically holding off an orgasm. From my experience, there' nothing positive about edging. In fact, for me it's a far more addictive way of pmo … it extends the time i spend looking a porn and has turned the whole process in to a whole fantasy/mind addiction. Very negative, indeed.
     
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  7. Jul 4, 2015 #7
    Icyweb

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    I also thought I read somewhere that edging could cause problems with your prostate or something like that. I didn't read enough about it to learn much, but it sounded pretty bad. I don't see much difference between edging and ballooning either. It sounds like ballooning is just a type of edging, in the same way edging is a type of masturbation.
     
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  8. Jul 4, 2015 #8
    Arley

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    No! I wasn't the one wondering about ballooning/edging … I totally agree with you EDGING, at least for me, IS the addiction. I was just elaborating on my orginal response which was perhaps a bit curt/rude. it was haxton 's question originally ...
     
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  9. Jul 4, 2015 #9
    Haxton_superman

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    Ah ok , thx for all replies - really appreciate them!

    Then i let it for sure be...

    Another thing:does someone know Jelqs?
    its basically a penis-enlargement exercise...
    To being able to do this exercise you dont need a full errection , but about a 80% errection.
    This i can easily do by reminding real sexual experiences from me (I dotn watch porns anymore since 4 years or so) and stimulating mysel only a few seconds (very far away from the point of no return - as said, only a 80% erection is needed...)..
    Would you say that at least this one is ok to do without too much worrying?
     
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  10. Jul 4, 2015 #10
    Icyweb

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    I still wouldn't do it. It really sounds too much like masturbating. From all I've heard, penis size really doesn't matter that much anyway. You either have a big one or you don't. Maybe you could make some progress if you worked really hard, but you could spend half the time on some other form of self improvement, and it would make you more attractive. A lot of people trying to get a bigger penis are doing so because they struggle with low self esteem, and others just want an excuse to do some sort of masturbation. If I were you, I would examine your motives and see if either of those apply to you. And even if they don't, I would still avoid jelqing and similar things.
     
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  11. Jul 7, 2015 #11
    Haxton_superman

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    @lcyweb:
    Im actually content with my pennis-size.... bout 16 cm, so slight above average, but not huge...
    Also I already spend some time on selfimprovement-forums and as well pick up-coms since ages^^

    I just like the pennis-gymming n general.... it also improves your sexdrive and your sensitivity for you own pennis..., which helps your sex performance... and it rly does not have anything to do with masturbation - lol, plz eduacate yourself bout a topic, when you wanna comment on it...
     
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  12. Jul 7, 2015 #12
    Haxton_superman

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    @Sun Bro:
    but you realize that im not a sex addict and do not watch porn since years?
    + masturbate at maximum to own memories 2 - times/week?
    I dont think that I need any sort of a starter-programm, but stll Im interested in the topic at all, so thats Im here...
     
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  13. Jul 7, 2015 #13
    Icyweb

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    I just read this and it sounds pretty snippy and rude, that isn't how I intended it, so please read it in a nicer tone.



    The definition of masturbation is, 'the stimulation or manipulation of one's own genitals, especially to orgasm; sexual self-gratification.'
    So yes, it is masturbation. I'm guilty of a lot of things, making uneducated claims is not often one of them.
    I was not actually thinking of penis size when I mentioned self esteem, just your general feeling of self worth. I'm not saying you have low self esteem, just that you might.
    Self improvement forums help, but devoting extra time to actual self improvement will help more. No matter how much time we spend improving ourselves, there's always more that needs to be done. I just think that instead of spending relatively large amounts of time on making your penis feel good, you should spend that time on relaxation and self improvement beyond the sexual kind.
     
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  14. Jul 8, 2015 #14
    Haxton_superman

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    btw, has this forum no quite-function?

    @ lcyweb:
    agree that reagards to selfimprovement and personal development, there will be always something to do because its a neverending process, and thats actually cool.
    Btw. PE-gym does not take long and i dont waste any time , cause in the 20-30 minutes, i do it, I simultaneously listen to interesting prepared MP3-files bout fincane, personaldevelopment, psychology , etc...
    so not really waisting time here...
     
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  15. Jul 8, 2015 #15
    Haxton_superman

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    @Sun Bro:
    I like sex and will not resist on it for sure - Im good with women due to my intense pu-background in my teens (and agee that most of the pu-stuff is doing longterm more damage, also to the men , then good... but again: black or white you only seem to know in your life, sr! cause there are rly also some good men with solid stuff outside - mark manson for instance) ) and have usually several fuckbuddies at the same time.
    But i never was someone who masturbated a lot - i have found this community through a psychological-podcast actually and found this topic interesting...
    Actually regards to jelqs, It annoys me that you need to stimulate or help with fantazy , so that you get a 80% errection... - so you see, i dont do pe-gymming for being able to masturbate---wtf, man - are you serious - rly lol - sry, but wow.
    just wow..
    but unfortunatelly jelqs only work with a 80% errection...
    And Im interested in if that will have a big disadvantage on my sex-dirve - so far it has not ( im doing it now for 3 years) and other ppl also dont have probs with it, who do pe-gymming for years - no ,the opposite is the case - from most guys, the sexdrive has become better and also their sexual stamina... but in this community it all seems to be black or white and no grey-area is existent - and yeah, rtouching your pennis has to be ALWAYS the evil.

    wow, rly disappointed of this community... long tme did not see such a closed-minded environment...

    @Not masturbating:
    did already a 21 days challange - lead by this one (maybe someone is interested in this material - for sure interesting imo):



    to be very honest now:
    1.) it was not very difficult for me to have no ejaculation, masturbation for 3 weeks
    2.) i also did not notice to much things which ppl often shall notice during such a challange (feeling less energy at the first days due to the suxual hangover from the last ejaculation, just right before starting the challange + feeling more energy, sexdrive when challange went on)...
    Im sorry, but for me this experiment was not so fascinating back in times (bout 9 months ago)
     
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  16. Jul 8, 2015 #16
    Haxton_superman

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    qsun bro:
    lol, sure i have...
    aha, lol.

    are you maybe a cult leader or so? sry, but lol - it really sounds like that^^
     
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  17. Jul 8, 2015 #17
    Icyweb

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    So it doesn't waste much time, but it's still a form of masturbating, even if one of the goals is improved functionality/pleasure. I'm not trying to make you feel like some degenerate scumbag, but I believe this practice is harmful and addictive, and also serves to stroke your ego, which is another area of self improvement most of us need to work on, more than the other areas in most cases.
    Not everyone experiences the same urges and benefits within the first few weeks, or even the first month. I challenge you to try a 60-90 day hardmode challenge, and if you don't notice some improvements to your character, or feel that it's a harmful/addictive habit afterwards, I will be very surprised.

    Do you accept?
     
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  18. Jul 10, 2015 #18
    Haxton_superman

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    New Continue to be ignorant buddy. I was just trying to help. Whenever you decide you accept you have a problem, pm me and I would be happy to help you

    Dont play with me fake-nice- buddy!
    Everybody with a brain realizes what youre doing here... and btw you are in my view ignorant... and a vdery black or white, such as closed-minded person...

    @manipulation: Uh, what a bad word you have choosen lol - you have no clue about social dynamics in genreel and do not realize that we all manipulate each other all the time... of course theree is "bad" manipulation and "positive" manipulation" - I just give the women what they want and as a result of this, I had ay way way more women then very likely you will ver have in 100 of your lifes^^
    enjoy!:)
     
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  19. Jul 10, 2015 #19
    Haxton_superman

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    @lcyweb:
    would this challenge also include no reallife sex?
    If so, lol - no way - really, m happy with my sexlife and why the fuck I should resist on it... absurd imagination...
     
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  20. Jul 10, 2015 #20
    Icyweb

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    That was the original challenge, but if you won't accept that, then I'll reduce it to normal mode. Then sex would be okay, but no porn, masturbation, fantasizing, or penis gymming.
     
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