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Doctor's advice makes no sense

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by illunis, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. illunis

    illunis New Fapstronaut

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    Dear community,

    I`m 21 years old and i think i have PIED. I`m fapping since i was 15 years old regularly. In my case i`m now unable to get hard without touching it, and without touching i loose erection very fast. 3 Years ago everthing was normal and i often get hard only when I saw a beautiful girl. Now nothing happens.

    The doctor said there is no sign of any problems and it is only the case that I put to much pressure on me when I want to have sex. He said I should try to use pills only to get selfconfident. I now don`t really know what to do?

    My problem is I always dating girls which I think they are really attractive, but when gets serious I´m not able to be ready for it and so all of this relations end and I´m far away of a normal sex-life. It is extremly frustrating.

    I wanted to know what you think about the advice?

    I´m going to stop PMO, because I think porn made me insensitive to normal sex, girls and so on.

    Sorry for the bad english ;)
     
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  2. franco216

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    Not every doctor is aware of nofap (if any at all). If I were you, I wouldn't worry too much at all. Try and do a challenge, see where it gets you. Maybe you learn more about yourself (and about how your body works) in the process. But hey, maybe the doctor is right and you have some sort of anxiety and you can keep trying with girls and someday you will be relaxed and can enjoy proper sex.

    For me, whenever I overcame one problem regarding my sexuality, another one showed up. Therefore, I don't believe that I can just keep doing whatever (PMO) and expect improvement. But your case might be different.
     
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  3. GG2002

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    Many medical professionals are resistant to diagnosing pmo as a cause of ED. Did you tell your doctor that you think your problem is related to PMO? If not I would. Sometimes you need a reason educate them. Even then you will likely find resistance. My partner (I'm am So) had three different counselors tell him that his DE was not related to pmo. One said he was just nervous and to try meditation. Another said the only way you can have this problem is if you watch P everyday for hours you don't so it most be anxiety take some antidepressants. The last one recommended that he alternate his PMO schedule so he could do that and still perform with me . We tried that it did not work. Then she said I should agree to use porn with him and stop being so demanding. Guess what? When he stopped the PMO his problem was fixed! So don't always trust docs on this subject. Do a 90 day reboot.
     
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  4. Doctors don't like anything that makes them look wrong, based on my observations. He likely never struggled with porn or over-masturbation, so he's not aware of their dangers.
     
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  5. Bel

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    Doctors also make a lot of money dispensing those little pills. Find a urologist, they might actually be more aware about the overuse of your plumbing.
     
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  6. AdLunaRex

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    In all most any case the problem isn't yourself, the problem is rejection by the women you consider them attractive. If you had an obedient sexual partner your situation will change. Your body is used to masturbation and it must be used to make sex with a partner, otherwise you will end with your body being used not to make sex at all.
     
  7. Headspace

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    I would expect that's it. It's been that way for me and many others here. Do not take any pills until you've tried a proper reboot.
     
  8. GG2002

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    What is an obedient sex partner? One who does what you want and asks nothing for herself sort of like porn? If you have that mentality you will never find a partner. And no having a sex partner does not fix the problem. In fact if often makes it worse. You can't perform in bed because you are used to porn and your hand and that causes stress and anxiety. You see sex as stressful so you return to PMO. It's also not about an attractive woman. You could have the hottest woman on the planet and she would never compete with PMO! Try not to just go out and look for sex or judge women solely on their looks or attractiveness. We all get shot down by people we want, women too. You just pick yourself up and go again. But please don't assume once you get a sex partner all your problems will be solved. Read around there are many many men with attractive partners who still pmo and can't stop who thought a relationship would fix them and who can't perform in bed. Pmo is not about sex or sex drive. It may start out that way but does not end that way.
     
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  9. Code Hero

    Code Hero Fapstronaut

    Remember your brain on porn? The link between your brain pathways and your libido is there, and only when you break that chain and rewire your brain can your body start reacting naturally. I too have had reluctant doctors regarding my PIED. The only thing to break it is to be fully present with the relationships you are in, and to embrace sex not as the end goal, but as part of the whole experience. And with the right partner, every moment, in and out of the bedroom, is the best.
     
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  10. franco216

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    I like that advice very much. It's not easy to see it that way as the virgin I am, but indeed, once I can enjoy every moment with a girl - regardless of sex, everything makes more sense immediately (e.g. I don't come across as needy). Nothing beats being in the moment.
     
  11. Leo3000

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    Some good advice already shared (except the part about the "obedient sex parter" IMHO). Doctors definitely don't know everything and it sounds like you got one that isn't familiar with what's going on with young men and P these days. Pills at your age is a ridiculous idea.

    What I would add to what's been shared is that your youth likely contributed to your brain going from healthy at 15 to dopamine-fried by 21. I've read again and again how younger brains have increased "plasticity" and can thus more easily be rewired. The good news is that it works both ways; keep your hands to yourself and your eyes out the computer screen for the next three months and you should be just fine.

    Good luck and do keep us posted.
     
  12. A doctor is a scientist. Most scientists want to see evidence replicated over and over in tightly controllled studies. Human Sexuality research is not easy to conduct. Until most scientists see a good deal of evidence they are skeptics. As an academic myself I'm the same way. One of the reasons I'm trying the reboot is to use myself as my own research subject. I'm only one person obviously but I want to try it myself to see the results. I'm not married or in a relationship at this time and I'm all for self improvement. So far I do like the results. I have no desire to watch porn. The MO? Yes very much. My 1st goal is 2 weeks no MO. Then 30 days.
     
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  13. noonoon

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    It sounds like you are having a lot of sex, or trying to have a lot of sex. Perhaps somewhere inside you is a sense that this isn't right? Perhaps the best thing would be to abstain for a while. Stop trying for the sex so much? Maybe you've become a bit over-sexed?
     
  14. I am doing the re boot. I only have sex within monogamous committed relationships.
     
  15. franco216

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    I certainly don't have a lot of sex. My problems start very early in the process (e.g. keeping people at a distance or sending contradicting signals to a woman that I like). I try to take it easy and approach everything without pressure. I don't have fixed goals of how often I want to have sex or anything like this. I once set out with the goal that I simply want to be as confident around women as I am around people in general.

    Still you're raising an interesting point. I feel somewhat guilt-ridden whenever I sense attraction. It could certainly help not to consider sex at all.
     

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