Did you experience any side effects from not having release?

Absolutely I did. I just finished a 120 day hardmode and MO’d on day 120. Had very minor flatline during the 120 and superpowers during all of it. After the O the superpowers faded over a period of about two weeks and I immediately went into another streak but the superpowers did not come back. I’ve been into Nofap since early 2011 and usually after O with sex or M it takes anywhere from 10 to 14 days for superpowers to come back so I started to get worried. I will say that during all this time I’ve been in a relationship having sex but dabbled in porn occasionally but very rarely to O and I was edging without porn also rarely nowhere near what I was doing pre Nofap in addiction mode. My girlfriend and I were in a LDR so I slowly was easing back into porn tricking myself that I was healed and a little bit wouldn’t hurt. So, around day 30 in the new streak when the superpowers weren’t coming back I really started to get worried. Instead, I started having headaches, anxiety, and this agitated pressured feeling. I had no libido but felt like I needed a major release if that makes sense. I read some reddit postings from someone that believed that MO’ing without fantasy two to three times in a row could get the superpowers back and so I hesitantly tried it at around day 67 of the new streak. My semen came out very watery. I will say that I felt drastically better within 12 hours and in about 24 hours I could feel the superpowers coming back and they’ve stayed for over two and half weeks now. This is the longest I’ve gone in Nofap with no P and the 120 was the longest I’ve gone no PMO. I’m starting to see that I’m pretty much healed and it’s my belief that after a certain point you need a release and that it’s healthy and that P has to be eliminated FOREVER. For me, not having an O caused some unpleasant symptoms, but I believe my brain is close to getting back on track. I’m 43 years old. I’m probably going to continue on a streak for a few more weeks then evaluate how I feel to see if I want to MO or have sex whichever comes first. I have a date with a hot Brazilian girl tomorrow night so hopefully sex may come first.

 

^ ya sometimes you just need a jumpstart to get past the dreaded flatline periods.

 

So, you think MO without fantasy is not a big problem. See, I don’t have the issue with the porn anymore just need to handle the MOnamd not so it so much..

 

Did you feel the same as when you PMO or just different and not so much dopamine kick..

 

Not as much of dopamine kick as that wave you ride when you’re getting high PMO’ing. It was enjoyable and the sensations were great but I finished quickly all three times because I haven’t done it for so long so I’ll have to see what it feels like if I get into a regular MO cycle with shorter times in between O. My morning wood is back now and it feels like a normal libido is back in place with cravings for O but I think that’s what we’re all wanting. A normal desire.

Another interesting note is that prior to MO’ing three times in a row my balls and scrotum didn’t feel full whereas they have when I have superpowers and a libido. After I MO’d they have started to feel and appear full again. You would think that it would be the opposite.

 

What are those "Superpowers" you are talking about in your post?

 

When I personally refer to superpowers for me it means my anxiety is at a minimum, sociable, focus, deeper voice, assertiveness, and a marked difference in motivation and ability to more easily handle what my work and day throws at me. In no way do I believe there is anything super or powerful about what I’m feeling. It simply is the way we’re all meant to feel and it is such a profound difference in disposition from the bad feelings that we feel during addiction to porn.

 

Okay, so my anxiety is somewhat at a minimum right now but not entirely gone. I can be sociable but it is difficult with the anxiety. I am getting through work now better than before. I wonder if more time without MO will help relieve this a lot more as I process all this from being numbed up. The porn is not an issue at all to me, I can go without that..

 

What are the factors that would cause this? How old are you? How long has your reboot been, no PMO? How long was your addiction? Do you notice a change after MO?

I too am at a point where I have absolutely no cravings to run to the computer to watch P. I have flashes in my mind of a scene maybe but I quickly change focus. I know that after long enough with no P this will fade away.

 

Okay, so I’m 39 and been hard mode reboot for the 81 days. The addiction to MO since I was young I can’t really remember but around early 20’s possibly starting with fantasy as no high speed existed. Only the last two or three years I started edging a bit and sometimes PMO as well with internet porn. Honestly, I functioned better with an O release but wanted to get rid of the porn. Now, no release and I have a bit of trouble with symptoms, running to talk to people although I am fine when by myself. I think I get too anxious in my head about it when it is irrational. I just think if I can control the MO to not be excessive I will feel better. I am telling myself I have to look for relationships though. I fear MO at this stage because I have PIED but not sure how bad. Morning wood comes and goes but not spontaneous elections yet. I actually want to wait when spontaneous arousal happens before MO or I fee I will set myself back.

 

I would reset the MO frequency and go no PMO for say 30-60 days and see how you feel. If you didn’t watch porn for that long I would think you would be getting more relief by now. How often do you MO?

 

I am seriously amazed on how you all can do without MO for longer then 2-3 weeks.
When i started my streak i was fine, but after 24 days of no release, my mind is filled with every fkn inch about wanting to have sex. It wasnt healthy anymore.
After the MO in the morning(Without porn of course), i feel SO much better and it got rid of this craving and urge. I am not a monk. I can't go longer than this amount of time without any O.
Man, i can look woman in the eyes again without wanting to pinn them to the ground. Its legit so much better now, jezuz.

How are you guys controlling your libido without any release?????

EDIT: There is also a huge other downside. If i have a date in this state, i know i will be more prone to not look at the character and personality anymore. And for me, its hugely important to do that to have a good time later :S

 

I haven’t MO for the 81 days so I believe this is what is bringing on the symptoms. I wonder if going another 30 days will help at all or not. What is a good MO frequency in your opinion. I don’t want to be completely non motivational and not look for a relationship with starting MO again. Porn will not be an issue but will starting MO delay the PIED symptoms from healing. I am thinking hard mode is for those that really have a hard time giving up internet porn.

 

It’s definitely hard and I want to as well but trying to go for as long as I can here .. You are doing a great job though. My issue is a little different. I just want to MO but don’t have libido to want to have sex with someone at the moment.

 

I had these exact same unhealthy feelings but it came without a libido really. I knew I needed a release but it was an anxious, agitated feeling like I was going to explode. Three O’s in a row brought everything good back for me as well.

 

That is different for everyone. Same with how happy someone is with having or not having regular sex.
I personally draw the limit between 2-4 weeks for MO and dont have to have sex at all. There is no counter for that. But i still really really enjoy it so i will do everything in my power to get it and to make it beautiful when it happens.
Sex with a girl/woman really is WAY more about quality for me than it is about quantity. At least for now.

Well, i either only imagine super slow sex or nothing when i MO, but more importantly, i use the lightest grip possible. And the slowest strokes possible as well.
I am going to "train" to the point where i can get an O with M while using a condom and using my left hand, with really slow strokes.

It has already gotten so much better that i needed WAY less grip then i usually do when i M.
Patience and dedication will bring the results.

 

In that case if I were you I would rub one out as soon as possible maybe even two or three. This is completely up to your own discretion though.

 

Okay, thanks for the post man. I just want to clear up what you said about MO. You only MO once every two weeks then or twice every two to four weeks. I believe in quality vs quantity as well and not sex crazed either like I need it every minute. Just want to find someone is all.