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Day 6,,This is magic..believe me!..but only when you surpass hell :(

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by rabbit-gymfreak ;\, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. 1) Kinda confused on what you mean by that statement? Ugh...habits are very hard to break and I have been trying many times. Right now I am on another streak because I relapsed after heartbreaking incident that happened to me recently.

    2) It is in human nature to do things we know is bad, yet we do it anyway (war, drugs, breakups etc). I don't know what you are trying to say here.

    3) We may not be born fapping but fapping is very natural. We are not the only mammals that do it. If it is learned that it does not make it bad. Many of our daily functions are learned behaviors and without it they would be detrimental to us.

    4) We were all young and we all make mistakes. No one is born having goal setting and self-improvement in mind. It is learned.

    5) Not sure what a pipe is but you are right most of our society is highly sexualized and we are led to believe that if we lack it there must be something wrong with us. Do not believe his as it is just advertising or "noise".
     
  2. Bro, you're not sure what a 'pipe' is? Either you are joking or really innocent, anyways let me make it clear to you if you didn't get it, 'pipe' is a substitute i am using for 'penis' . Simple :).
     
  3. u too bro , i cleared day 7 :)
     
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  4. Yea you are right brother it's not bad, but fapping is definitely related to it. I don't get it why people keep asking about myths and truths about masturbation(I too spent months on this research), the reason we search is coz we can't give it up. And still no studies have anything definitive to prove on masturbation, why don't we just stop it? Even if it's for the benefits we hear from all around the world.
     
  5. Thanks bro, I'll remember that.. :)
     
  6. fapequalsdeath

    fapequalsdeath Fapstronaut

  7. Lol, I am kinda innocent. I always get kept out of the loop of everything.
     
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  9. Day 8 also cleared guys, you can check it out in forums>rebooting :D
     
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  11. Warren_Beatty

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    Dude what the hell are you talking about? Its not a war against something that you think has invaded you. Pmo is a symptom, thats all they are. They're messengers trying to get your attention and guide you back to yourself. Theyre not the enemy, if you see it as an enemy then you are at war with yourself and when that happens there is nothing but turmoil and suffering in your life. Pmo block out whats beneath, they are actually protectors. If you see them thst way then they start to relinquish control over you and when that happens then you get to confront the real issue. And when you get to that point you realise that its only just beginning and that the only way out is to surrender to whats beneath and allow it to do its thing. The more you fight the longer you prolong your suffering and make your life the shit show
     
  12. lol bro, I feel better now than I ever felt in the last 10 years, and looking at your reply, I feel pmo has taken so much control over you that you've given up, but I won't. Go to youtube and check how many people have posted videos telling pmo has fucked them in countless ways. If pmo was not a bad thing, why have so many people joined this website? Brother you seem to be heavily trapped in FUCKER..
     
  13. lantti

    lantti Fapstronaut

    As a side note, I DID fight for it. 8 days in:cool:
     
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  14. lantti

    lantti Fapstronaut

    I think double-posting is retarded, but this post I cannot left unanswered.

    No it isn't. And then again, yes it is. It was grown into our lifes. I myself whatched porn from age 11. My parents tried to protect me, because they knew I was vulnerable to this kind of stuff. They installed adult blocker. Wasn't early enough though, I was already hooked and got around it easily. My parents then again were very resistant to this, because they already had their sexuality set up by their marriage, and their brains were mature enough to not do stupid things.

    And now, that "thing" has lived in our brain for quite a while. It is not real, it is not really a thing, but it is certain type of habit/education that doesn't want to leave because it has spoiled sacred sexuality; worse, it has become it. Invader; no. Virus? perhaps- It does prevent pregnancy better than klamydia. Computer virus? Now where talking.

    No. No. Don't say to yourself that. It's the PMO talking here. It says "Yes, I'm protecting you from all this harmful feelings and information" In essence, PMO is protecting you from yourself right now- just like police state protects it's citizens "from themselves".

    See above. You're not rebooting at all I'm afraid. PMO is the cause. True, one must struggle to find himself again, but PMO caused this all. Nobody was starting porn "because I have bad feeling about myself". It was started by sexual attraction. Atleast for me. And it ends the same way. Atleast for me. 8 days in.

    You're essentially telling him to give up here. "The more you fight the longer you prolong your suffering and make your life the shit show". I hope you never give this bad of "advice" ever again.
     
  15. Warren_Beatty

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    Say what? Let me clarify.......im completley free from PMO. I dont know what day im on but i stopped counting at 90 and that was a good while ago. So im talking from direct experience here. If you think im telling someone to give up then you have absolutley no idea what im talking about, you dont understand the concept. Surrender is not giving up, its allowing. Its allowing what lies beneath the pmo to come to the surface so that you can finally deal with the real issue, not the symptoms. Surrender is when you finally wise up, stop running away using blocks and distractions and face what needs to be faced. Its not about fighting urges or distracting yourself or running away by keeping busy. Its about stopping and allowing it all come up and accepting everything without judgement. When ypu do this you achieve real freedom, not just white knuckling it for 90 days and then relapsing multiple times and spending your time holding on desperately.
     
  16. great, I am about to complete 9 in a few hours :)
     
  17. Bro but somewhere someone has to start right? Freedom cannot come to everyone like it did to you. Some easily get it, some fight to get it, and the rest submit.
     
  18. lantti

    lantti Fapstronaut

    Surrender is when you finally wise up, stop running away using blocks and distractions and face what needs to be faced.

    Here in Finland that is called fighting and courage. I do understand the concept of those two.

    accepting everything without judgement, When ypu do this you achieve real freedom,

    Are you christian? You sound like one.
     
  19. Warren_Beatty

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    Not Im not christian...........but why would that matter anyway? You do know that the basis of a 12 step program is surrender and these programs are non-denominational. Religion is one thing and spirituality is another. And this is a spiritual problem at its core, all addictions are. And so a spiritual problem has a spiritual solution. But dont take my word for it, try it for yourself. Let go, stop trying to fight and just let it all come up. I promise if you have the courage to do that then you will gain real freedom, forever.
     
  20. Warren_Beatty

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    Yes of course you start. All Im saying is dont waste your time, like I did, trying to fight symptoms because symptoms are what lie above the surface. But lies below the water line is what really drives the compulsion and its that which needs to be faced. Freedom came to me after I had floundered around trying to control the urges, trying to resist them, trying to escape them with distractions, trying to run away from them, trying to hold on desperately for 90 days........but I realised that it was a waste of time because the compulsion was never healed at its core. And the way to do that is to let go of control and allow it all to come up. Its scary, I wont lie to you and thats the reason why so many people dont face this at its core. Real freedom does not come to some easy. It only is easy when you stop the avoidance, put down your sword, and stop trying to fight yourself. And thats not religion or anything like that, its something else. Its not science either, its just healing and if you accept that you will start to heal properly and completely.
     
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