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Day 27 - Came while dryhumping a girl. Does this count as a reset?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by jaigos, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. jaigos

    jaigos Fapstronaut

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    Title says it all. I'm on day 27 of a proper streak. I'm a virgin, never been able to get it up with a girl (PIED) but today I had a girl over and we started making out and then she was on top of me and I was fingering her. We both still had all our clothes on. The friction of my jeans felt good and I probably got to 70% erect and had an orgasm. Does this count as a reset? Should I just plow on?

    Should mention that the main reason I am doing nofap is for the ED. I haven't watched porn in like 4 months now.
     
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  2. over50

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    I'd say that given your personal goal of no PM, it's not a reset.
     
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  3. jaigos

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    I see. But it doesn't count as natural sex, my penis was not in contact with her skin (my jeans instead) so could it be taken to be M? My goal says no PM but actually I was trying to avoid PMO for at least the first 90 days. However this felt kind of unavoidable as it happened so suddenly and I don't think I could have stopped it. Also feels like a step in the right direction given I was able to get turned on with a real woman (trying to recover from PIED).

    I know I'm moving in the right direction, just wanted to gauge thoughts on whether I should completely avoid all physical contact with girls for the first 90 days in order to speed up the reboot and recovery.
     
  4. Atleast you sensitivity is intact if you can O from dry humping, some of us cannot achieve that due to desensitization so maybe it is a sign you are not far down gone the road of PM destruction :)
     
  5. jaigos

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    I guess. To recover from PIED should I carry on doing stuff like this or not?
     
  6. It depends on your goals, is your NoFap reboot for PMO or PM alone?
     
  7. TheNewPat

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    Sounds like you just want to have a normal sex life and be free from your addiction?

    In my opinion.. it doesnt matter and you shouldn't reset your timer.

    You didnt PM.

    You Oed.. not from masturbation, but from a real girl.
     
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  8. User3475682

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    It's not a reset.Atleast not if you are doing normal mode.
     
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  9. Abetterbrain

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    It's not a reset. If your goal is the retrain your brain for normal sexual activity, then congratulations, that's exactly what you were doing. You were over excited and that's fine. When I was a Virgin I was the same. Nearly cumming just kissing and playing with girls. It'll get better.
     
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  10. vineyard

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    Not a reset at all dude.
    And your body is pretty well and rebooting if you got even not full erection and O. Things are well, enjoy your time with that girl!
     
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  11. jaigos

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    I don't know what's the best to do? There's so many conflicting reports about no PMO/ no PM being better. I started out aiming for no PMO but I have obviously O'd

    Exactly! My goal is to successfully have sex with real women regularly - the main reason I decided to do nofap. I haven't watched porn in 4 months now, I don't even crave it tbh but I have loads of social, anxiety issues from years of use that make it hard for me to get with a girl

    Thank you! I was worried as I had heard its bad to O while not fully erect - I'm not sure how hard I was as it happened so fast and I didn't get a chance to check. Hopefully I'm not too sensitive next time (27 days will do that to anyone I guess)

    Isn't that bad to O while not fully erect?
     
  12. Then reboot on a PM mode and only O with a woman and stay away from porn and keep your hand out of your pants
    Better yet, finish your reboot so as to avoid things such as PE especially if PM has been a long time problem
     
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  13. TheNewPat

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    Quitting porn is just the start of the journey. Now you can see the things you have avoided dealing with because, quite frankly, you had your dopamine rush from orgasms and didnt feel the need to do anything about them.

    So.. time to deal with that social anxiety?
    What are you dojng about it?

    For me... 5-20mins meditation and 5-10 mins positive affirmations every morning.
    Exercise and healthy eating.

    I feel my anxiety getting better every day, im more confident too! I loveeeeee it.
     
  14. jaigos

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    Yeah for sure have made some changes! Stopped porn, exercise 5 times a week, watch my calories, eat balanced, sleep more, started meditation, reading regularly, no video games, deleted Facebook, Snapchat, tinder. Only one I haven't stopped is drinking.

    I agree, I've been holding myself back for the last 12 years - looking back I probably was mildly depressed the entire time. I feel like I'm coming out of my flatline now (lasted maybe 2 months) and I have random bursts of happiness and find myself more playful/talkative at work. I've always been shy but back when I was a kid I was more confident so hopefully that should come back. I don't really have a plan apart from that, I'm just going to see how it goes. What would you recommend?
     
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  15. jaigos

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    So complete 90 days without O? How will an incomplete reboot give me PE?
     
  16. TheNewPat

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    Sounds like you're doing awesome man. Pretty much the same stuff as me. I guess it takes time?
    Do you read much?
    Ive gotten into reading self confidence/meditation/mindfulness type books... i think theyre helping.
     
  17. Yes Ideally it is best to wait until your 90 day reboot is over when on PMO reboot but honestly it depends on the person
    So the ultimate decision will be up to you as you know your PMO addiction best
     
  18. vineyard

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    why not? do not be so hard on yourself setting some excessive rules: as I said - be happy with having this expierience with that girl. although it is not full intercourse, it is sexual expierience, no doubt about that. if you got even half erection - for PMO addict it is great, especially as you mentioned you do not heve much sexal expierience. on the beggining of my recovery when I was with girl my penis have not reacted at all. it even looked smaller than usual. if you get even not full erection and you O when girl stimulates you - it means your braing is more wired to normal sexual reactions than most of us here. even it it is "half-wired" yet.
     
  19. jaigos

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    Yeah hopefully not too much longer. I know my counter says 30 days but i actually started nofap 4 months ago now. Have had relapses but nothing too drastic and no internet porn use in any case. When I was in a flatline I was scared I would feel like that forever.

    I used to love reading, trying to get back into it. Have a short attention span so sticking to fiction for now but will definitely give those types of books a go. Any recommendations?

    I have just read that O while not fully erect is bad for you as it trains your body to do that, leading to PE and erection problems. Don't get me wrong, I am happy for the experience, in the past I've had beautiful girls willing in my bed but my little guy has had no interest. The only way I could describe those failures was that I felt numb down there and the whole experience felt alien. At least this time there were signs of life :) I'm gonna keep trying and see how it goes
     
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  20. jaigos

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    Update: Feeling like this nofap is working. I think I'm out of a flatline, my overall mood has definitely lifted and I'm getting morning wood and can stimulate boners pretty regularly. The only issue is I still can't do it with a girl. Like when I'm on my couch and we're cuddling/making out I have a semi but then when we go to the bedroom it goes back to being numb down there and I have actually cum in my pants while not even hard. Is my issue now performance anxiety? Should I take some blue pills to help me over the hump?
     

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