Cure the ED with Nofap - use pills to overlay the symptoms for normal sex ?

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by Kratos4121, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. Kratos4121

    Kratos4121 Fapstronaut

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    Hey guys,

    have 1-2 questions.
    small summary of my problem:
    -I am 25
    -I always have had problems to hold/get an erection while "normal" sex since the beginn of my sexlife at the age of 21
    -> so i mostly took pills to have normal sex, when i tried without it mostly failed
    -mastubated since my teenage few times a days
    -didnt go to the doctor
    -I have a new great girlfriend now, told her about my problem, but not of my regulary pill consum to have sex (she thought the most sex worked, and that i only fail sometimes cause of P & M)
    -I wanted to reboot 30 days
    -I had 14 days without P&M and "normal" sex, after 14 days we tried to have sex and my dick didnt get complete hard, but i had 2 premature ejaculations just by touching her my dick... that made me really sad cause i thought i would get an improvment after 14 days.


    Now i think about rebooting maybe 90 days? Or when can i reckon with an improvment? And should i also go to a doctor to check my hormone-status, i just feel so shamefull to do it...?!
    And of course i want sex with my girlfriend and my girlfriend need it , so the question is, would be "okay" to stop masturbating and porn, but use pills to have normal sex or would a kind of cheating in rebooting? Will it extend my curing? What is your opinion?

    Greetings, Thanks and good luck to other people!

    Kratos
     
  2. GG2002

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    I’m female and my ex had PIED so I will try to help a bit. You say you have always had ED and are taking ED pills at such a young age. Why are you taking the pills? Do you have some other underlying physical issues causing ED? It just seems odd to me that a doc would prescribe ED drugs to someone so young unless there is a physical problem. How long have you been pmo free for since you began to MO?

    No pills generally are not going to help you if you have PIED which I suspect you may. They may temporarily mask the problem but eventually they too will stop working or they will give you delayed ejaculation which means you won’t be able to reach orgasm at all. De is horrible for women to deal with.

    Stop the pmo for a minimum of 90 days and the pills you need to see what your body does without these. Most men in relationships do continue to have sex with their partners we did but a few ground rules. You have to be 100 percent honest with your partner. So tell her about the ED meds tell her if you relapse and ask her to help you in your journey. You must be willing to answer whatever questions she has it’s really important that you are honest. Second do not use your own hand during sex at all. If you can’t finish you stop sex. You also need to untrain your body from your hand and tell it that she’s your only source of O. She can use her hand you just can’t use yours. I suspect if you follow this advice you will be successful but you have to be patient. 14 days is nothing. As far as the PE your body does not know what to do right now. It is re regulating and that’s going to take time.

    However some men find that continuing to have sex particularly in new relationships sabotages their recovery. Pmo is a coping mechanism and when you lose that you are in a tough spot. Relationships add stress and if you are attempting to have sex and failing that may push you back to pmo. So it’s okay to end things with her. No it’s not reasonable to ask a new partner to not have sex for 90 days. You can certainly propose it to her but if she says no understand.
    Pmo for a u SO if a long difficult road so just recognize what you are asking of her. Good luck!
     
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  3. phwrancesco

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    When you reach 70-80-90 days of no pmo you'll never again wonder if you'll gain an erection or not :)
     
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  4. Kurenai

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    You were PMOing for ten years, a few times a days. Give yourself a break man, you can't pretend to solve the problem in 14 days. Stay strong, keep going and I agree, speak to your GF.
     
  5. ConniLingus

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    I agree with GG2002. You cannot use your hand in any activity with your GF. There is no mouth or vagina that is as tight as your grip or can move as fast as your hand. NONE! Your hand is not real world sex with a partner. A woman cannot stimulate you like your hand and you cannot expect a woman to be as tight or as fast as your hand. Its just a fact of life and anatomy.

    And you should NOT need ED pills at such a young age. At 25, you should get a boner when the wind blows and shouldnt need blue pills. In time, even the pills will stop working. You have to give yourself time.....90 days+ at a minimum and allow the sensitivity in your penis to recover. I am no doctor, but I imagine that men of all ages have been doing permanent vascular and neurological damage to their units via the death grip. Stop now! There is light over the horizon, you just need to climb the mountain of abstinence to get to it. Good luck to you and keep the faith!
     
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  6. Kratos4121

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    Hey,

    first I want to thank you all for your support and your help!
    @GG2002: Of course, the doctor don´t prescripted me the pills, i bought them on the black-market.
    And I used your advice and talked to my GF yesterday. It was very hard for me, cause the problem i have, feels like a problem of my manhood. First she felt bad, cause it changed her view of our sexlife in a retroperspective way. But after a while, she understood why i couldnt tell her. Now we can talk openly about it. Later we tried to have sex and it worked and i followed your advice again and i didnt use my hand for anything =) (but it was really fast ^^), but the next morning we tried it again but it didnt work . But now i feel more free, cause she knows about the problem and she is very sympatethetic. I feel good with her. And i am more optimistic now, cause of you, i really have to thank you. I will write down new news in a few days. =)

    and GG2002: May i ask, why you are so active here in the nofap-forum? Is it cause of your Ex-BF?

    Greetings

    Kratos
     
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  7. Kurenai

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    I am so glad to hear this. It was very brave of you to tell her and not easy. I am active because I want to give back to a group that helped me so much and if I can prevent other men and women from losing great relationships to this addiction. When I first heard of pmo addiction I had no clue what it was. I blamed myself, I felt alone, and I was embarrassed to discuss it with friends and family. While my ultimate choice was to leave my partner I don’t think I could have made that choice or made it through that part of my life without this community. Being out of the relationship also allows me perspective that I did not have while it in. When you are angry and hurt often you lash out and you can’t see things objectively. I wanted my relationship to work but ultimately my ex was just not ready to face his issues and I had to see that was something I could not change. Good luck to you!
     
  9. vineyard

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    hi everyone,

    thanks for all what is written above, it is absolutely great thread.

    I am on beggining of my non-PM challenge. @GG2002 , @ConniLingus advice about not using hand during sex and explanation is gold. I observe it in my sex life - nothing even comes close to stimulation which my hand can give me. I had sex 2 days ago. ED was fixed with pill, DE was fixed with hand. your posts brought to my attention that both are road to nowhere. thank you.

    reading this post and many others, it is slowly coming to my head that I am kind of sabbotaging my own rebooting by not deciding to hard-mode, but for today - I do not feel ready for it. I will see where my non-PM challenge will take me.

    @Kratos4121, congratulations to your courage and stength of your feeling that you openly discussed with your girlfriend. I am also absolutely impressed by her reaction, her emotional maturity and depth of your relation. it is accually breathtaking to me and fills me with hope.

    thank you all again
    vineyard
     
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  10. vineyard

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    BTW - today all day I am hasitating with decision to throw all my pills to the toilet, after what I learned from this thread.

    I must admit I have problem with it :) my rational side knows that getting rid of them is best thing I can do, they are messing with my reboot, there is a danger that if I get used to them I will be not able to have erection without them in the future. I am not even mentioning physical side effects I have after them (headache, weird changing heart-rate etc.)

    but there is this "idiot side" ringing that I can not have ED when my girlfrend will be here tomorrow, I have to perform, I will not humiliate myself etc. pills are laying on a kitchen table, I am passing them whole day, looking at them, thinking.

    I will let you know what happend with them later ;)

    good night and first of all - Happy New Year to everyone!
     
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  11. GG2002

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    Happy new year to you as well. I hope things went or go well. I would suggest to get past this fear you tell your girlfriend what you are dealing with. That way, if you do have ED she will be more likely to be understanding, and not blame herself for it. And that should make you feel more comfortable. As a woman that has been with a man with DE, after awhile she is going to question you using your hand or not being able to orgasm, just as much if not more than she will question the ED. I think part of what you are going through is that you are not so sure yet that PIED is real. Many many men and women for that matter struggle to believe that PMO which has been sold to us by society as perfectly normal, even healthy could cause a physical problem like ED or DE, my ex was like this as well, that and you don’t want to give up something you enjoy, so if a pill can fix it or if its not PMO that m a Les things easier, all of these things imo are a perfectly normal part of recovery. If you need to hang onto a few of the ED pills to feel better for awhile, I see nothing wrong with it. Don’t use them but keep them in your cabinet just in case. I have had several friends who quit smoking and kept a pack of cigarettes just in case for almost a year after quitting. It is a process, you cannot expect sucess overnight.
     
  12. Kratos4121

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    Hey,

    i want to upgrade how it worked. I have good and bad news. I start with the good news, cause its chronological the first one. After about 30 days of No-PM i could have hold my erection without pills, while i had sex with my girlfriend!!! So NoFap helped me to a more normal sex-life. =) Of course in the beginning i changed from ED to prejaculation, but after a few times it became to "normal" sex. SO the sex worked for a certain time, than the bad news happened. I relapsed and not only once i relapsed in the mestruation time of my girlfriend about 1 week everyday and about 1-2 times a day.
    It worked again without pills and i couldnt have sex with my girlfriend, so i thought i could just masturbate once again, that would not influence my sex life... Wrong thoughts. My PIED was back. I feel bad about it, but i am motivated to stop PM again i last longer now.

    The result of this message is, NoFap can cure ED!! and forget the thoughts "Once doesn´t hurt", its like a clean heroin addict shots again, just don´t do it, it will throw you back!
     
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  13. Dan84

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    Was your DE a recurring issue or sporadic? I'm suffering from DE (even though I use to have a normal sex life with my ex) and now it's made things worse cause I know what that once felt like, and keep putting pressure on myself to finish and have anxiety everytime that I won't be able to finish, and then I don't..
     
  14. Kratos4121

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    Hey,

    sorry I didnt realise, that somebody wrote. My ED was an recurring issue. But now, after a month of No-PM my sex life is more or less normal again. It just works once and not twice or more often. At the second time of having sex, short time after the first, i still cant hold this sexond erection, but i hope and i think it will improve with time. My next target is to arrive the 90 days obstacle.
    I just feel great at the moment, mybe i am just more active now and i have more self confidence. Sometimes at home, when i am high i have pressure to revert in old ways, but until now i can resist it. My girlfriend is also proud of me and i think she is satisfied with our sexlife. SO guys just keep on goin! The way is hard but it will improve your life!

    Greetins

    Kratos

    P.S. I will try to watch more often in this forum, to help more often =)
     
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  15. NIIED

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    Yew any improvements??
     

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