Being honest is a problem?

Yeah. I often notice that just by being honest, I get into trouble. Or get rejected. Or treated badly.

I don't mean being tactless. I've got manners.

It seems like everyone assumes a certain level of lying and dishonesty to be normal. Maybe it's all the advertising and general excessive competition out there.

Oh well. To alienation.

 

Curious, but could you supply an example?

 

A lot of honesty is effrontery. You dont need to lie, but you dont have to say every single thing u feel. This will harm u later.

 

First of all, I want to say that my original post was just blowing off steam after something minor yesterday. Perhaps there should be an "Incoherent Rants" section of the forum.

I'm pretty sure that's not my problem. Some people have that problem alright. Like I said, I'm not tactless.

My problem might be occasional "oversharing", about myself. Sometimes other people start oversharing, and they may even ask me questions that appear to encourage me to overshare, but then when I do overshare it goes down badly lol.

I think capitalism might be to blame for some of the excessive bullshitting that goes on, generally. It's one thing if a salesman bullshits you while selling you something cheap, and another thing if a doctor bullshits you about something serious, rather than saying, "I don't know." or "I'll have to get back to you on that." I know one doctor who should probably be thrown in prison for a good stretch. But (in an attempt) to be clear, I don't have any personal issues with doctors, that's just stories I've heard from other people.

 

LOL. That's an interesting perspective.

 

By being dishonest your trying to control people, being honest isn't about NOT getting into trouble or avoiding rejection and as far as people treating you badly HOW? if you were honest you would ask yourself "why am I around people who treat my bad" or "don't I deserve better" being honest is about being honest with yourself and others . Trying to make things smooth and problem free is why most people lie there ass off in the first place, and are the same ones that do that never can find someone who likes them just as they are because there so caught up in lying and holding back people never get to see the real them or beleve that people can like them JUST AS THEY ARE .
Think about that

 

Warning - there may be excessive honesty ahead.

I'm not dishonest though.

Shortly after writing that first post, I thought, actually it's better to be perhaps overly honest about yourself and get rejected then and there, rather than not being honest enough and being accepted only to be rejected at a later stage when people find out the real truth (hope that makes sense). You'd probably agree with that.

The whole subject is very complicated and involves many different things which perhaps aren't obviously related.

Maybe I'd be more "into" this conversation but for the fact that I'm using another website as my main go-to for PMO addiction etc. I just hang around here out of habit maybe lol. Am I being too honest?

I'm in a better mood today anyway. Like I kind of mentioned earlier, the original post was a bit of a reaction to something that happened to me yesterday.

Perhaps it's not an appropriate time to mention it, but in the spirit of honesty, I'm happy to be on Day 86!

 

I agree, you need to be honest being upfront early so you can move on from people who are not the right fit sounds good so far

Its good that your being honest , THERES NO SHAME IN BEING HONEST

So what if you were in a bad mood yesterday YOUR HUMAN AND YOU WERE HONESTLY STATING WHAT YOU FELT there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Its actually healthy to be upfront and honest even when we have days that well we wished would have been better. Whats wrong with being happy to be on day 86 ?I know from experience that's not something that's easy. You have a right to be proud of it, and its not inappropriate its just being honest to state that . It sounds like your on the right path to honesty