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Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Oct 22, 2017.

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  1. Plastic surgery is not biology. Its plastic surgery. If someone pours acid all over me and makes me unrecognizable im still a man. If someone cuts my dick off im still a man. If I take estrogen Im still a man.
    Your chromesomes and your bone structure are not societal constructs.
    I dont go around trying to offend people so if I was around a trans person I wouldnt say that even though thats precisely what it is. Again, I cool with people living the way they want but its a little much to expect everyone to take part in their delusion. Not everyone thinks that way and hating on someone for not conforming to your world view is just as Nazi as the people who act nasty to LGBT people because they dont agree with their lifestyle.
     
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  2. KingOfAllMedia

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    Your views come off as hateful and biggoted. Niether of which are helpful to the OP or anyone else for that matter.
     
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  3. SuperFan

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    I'm a white male. But if I grew up in the ghetto, identified with black culture, listened to rap music, and dressed in urban fashions, would it be acceptable to insist that others refer to me as a black man?

    Like @The Unfadeable, I 100% agree that everyone has the right to identify however they wish. But what they do not have--not by a longshot--is a right to force everyone else around them to use their preferred pronoun, acknowledge "their truth", etc. etc. Identity is a matter of perception, and sex chromosomes are a matter of being.

    ... and I think we're living in a very dangerous world if what I've just said is somehow 'hateful and bigoted.'
     
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  4. SuperFan

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    If gender is a construct of society and not biology, then why is 'gender reassignment' a surgical procedure?
     
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  5. Sense

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    You sound more like a boy, but yeah biologically you're still male.

    That's biological sex and not gender.

    Whereas you can go out of your way to offend people online because it's safer from repercussions?

    There's a mental health condition called gender dysphoria that can be addressed by psychotherapy, surgery and hormones - having a genuine condition that causes you to believe you're in the wrong body is not pretending, and by suggesting it is shows great ignorance.

    You're the only one who seems to be doing any hating 'round here.
     
  6. Sense

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    Maybe somebody else can answer that as I don't have the expertise or knowledge - but if our technology has the way to make people happier in their skin, then that's a miracle of science and a good thing about the age we live in.

    I believe that, if someone feels gender reassignment is what they need to make them happy, then they have the right to do whatever they want with their own body, and people should either support and respect their decision or mind their own business rather than bullying and trying to disempower.

    If someone crossdresses, or behaves in a way that doesn't match the traditional roles of male / female, then that's also their right. It's nobody else's business -- and no I'm not personally down with all the idpol language policing, but people still deserve agency over their own lives.
     
  7. noonoon

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    On a side note, what if one genuinely believes there IS something wrong with being bisexual or homosexual. This is a common belief throughout the world and taught in most major religions including my own, Catholicism.
    So are we not allowed to express our beliefs any longer? The OP wasn't saying he was homosexual, he was saying he was considering experimenting with homosexuality. It seems to me the ideal scenario in which differing opinions should be expressed, including the ones you dislike and consider "homophobic".
     
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  8. SuperFan

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    But that doesn't really let you off the hook. You explicitly said that gender was a construct of society--not something that's biological (and in your defense, it isn't just you who says that--it's virtually the entire LGBT/leftist movement). And yet, 'gender reassignment' is absolutely biological. If gender is simply a construct, then why do people feel the need to change their bodies so drastically in order to accommodate their gender identity? You can't say that gender is a societal construct, and then turn around and say that gender reassignment is "a miracle of science." If gender is a social construct, then science has nothing to do with it.


    One of the sad realities of this is that when many of these people go through reassignment surgery, they feel even more empty than before, because the drastic measure doesn't provide them the feeling of fulfillment and wholeness they were hoping for--and now their bodies have been seriously altered. Gender reassignment reversal is starting to trend.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/gender-reversal-surgery-rise-arent-talking/

    I feel horrible for these people. No matter what the issue is--gender or something completely unrelated--despair can be particularly brutal when you finally get the one thing you believed would bring you ultimate fulfillment, and it leaves you feeling empty.

    Absolutely. But if someone disagrees with it, or if they refuse to use that person's 'preferred pronoun', that is their right. But three weeks ago in California, Gov. Jerry Brown signed a law that says health care workers who don't use a patient's preferred pronoun can be fined or receive jail time. Absolute insanity.

    This surprises me ... so you're agreeing that it's a form of mental illness?

    I mean, I certainly agree that it's a type of mental illness, just like body dysmorphic disorder (BDD). But the goal of treatment in cases of dysmorphia is to get the patient to align with the truth--the rail-thin girl isn't fat like she thinks she is ... the massive bodybuilder doesn't need bigger arms, etc. The goal of treatment is not to encourage the patient's false view of self.
     
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  9. noonoon

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    I've read a lot of testimonies here of men who've experimented with this kind of stuff and it fucked them up.
    Your desire is most probably porn-induced. give up the pmo and it'll go away. That'd be your best option - problem solved.
     
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    Im a very open minded kind of guy so I was actually excited about one day fucking a ladyboy, but theyve lost their appeal over time though. Ive come to really appreciate a womans natural curves and such.
     
  12. Get off the gas my man I wouldn't fuck a dude you know how many gay men are out there waiting for a straight man to hit them up?? ALOT and that never crosses my mind so cut that prison gay sex rape shit out. You probably seen some throwed off shit while watching porn before too that got you off and thought about it but never did it. And duh I've posted about this before because it's an addiction what do you expect. People battle addictions. I am very aware that having sex with a transgendered person is engaging in homosexual acts. But like I said before the addiction to transgendered person porn makes me think about it and become curious. Not to the point to where I've called for trans escorts or anything but just think about it. That's why I freaking made this post. So I don't get this "troll talk" this is a place I feel comfortable talking about my personal problems about. And I'm real with myself so I have to keep it real with this post. I want a wife and a family some day and want to get past this hurdle. So all the false labeling and assumptions need to come to a complete cease.
     
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  13. Yea I don't think I could do it in real life. And if I did depending on which type it was. I'd probably enjoy it at the time from it being taboo and me actually living out what I've masturbated to for so long but at the same time probably stop in the middle of having sex with her/him and be completely disgusted, ashamed and filled with complete regret. I would never be able to look my father, brother or friends in the eyes again if I did something like that from shame. I'm not a gay man nor do I find men or masculinity attractive. But porn alters your mind and I've let it take a toll on me. I was doing so good for a while too watching no porn and just living untill I saw a TV show on Netflix which had I guess a cameo from a famous trans woman from France who was very attractive which led to me masturbating to her which also led to me looking for the right transgendered person porn star picture to get off too or just pic of a naked transgendered person period. Of course this isn't what I want and it's a hole I got to dig myself out of. I'll get better again day by day.
     
  14. Ready to be healthy

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    My comment was in response to a poster that said if you were gay you were "sick" and "had problems" (which have since been removed due to it's homophobic content) - so no- that is not respectful of other users and goes beyond just having an opinion. I didn't at any point say religious people couldn't express an opinion (religion didn't even have anything to do with this) I simply asked he be respectful to other users- something I would have thought a devout Catholic would also be espousing?

    Homophobia is not justified by hiding behind a religion and anyone being hateful towards a fellow human being should be a bigger concern to a religious individual than who a person happens to love.
     
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  15. Ready to be healthy

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    I knew what my sexuality was long before porn and I can say I am happy, healthy and not in anyway fucked up.
     
  16. Themadfapper

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    You got a porn addiction. Hence you are fucked up in some way. Not trying to be a dick, but we are here because we are fucked up. That's what problems are. Most people in this day and age are fucked up in some way.

    @Big dawg 21

    Sorry for doubting you.
     
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  17. Ready to be healthy

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    Yes Porn addiction aside. But my sexuality was established long before I ever saw porn, that's all I meant.
     
  18. The thread ask for honesty and honestly no, never for me. I have my own demons I'm battling but ladyboys isn't one of them.
     
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  19. Sense

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    To say there is something wrong with being bisexual or homosexual is like saying there's something wrong with being black or female or disabled - it's demonstrating prejudice towards people who have no choice over who they are, what they feel or who they're attracted to.

    Beliefs are not facts - believing something doesn't make it correct.

    So quite frankly religious bigotry can go and do one - prejudice has no place in the modern world and anyone expressing discriminatory beliefs should be challenged wherever necessary.
     
  20. Sense

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    Dysphoria is not dysmorphia - different word so not something for the easily confused. I never used the term illness either, so if you wish to debate with me I suggest you don't paraphrase or misquote. Here, have some education:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
     
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