Almost a year, no concrete advantages, i think nofap is placebo...

arkad1 · May 6, 2019

Fenix Rising said: ↑

As someone with 2 decades long addiction to daily compulsive binge MO and PMO and seriously fighting it for 5 and not so seriously for 8 years, I can only give my empirical observations on no PMO mostly in monk mode (no sexual activity whatsoever):

Positives:
- heals PIED problems
- improves libido
- elevates numbness (logical consequence of not drowning your brains in the neuropeptides oxytocin (OXT )and arginine vasopressin (VAS) on daily basis)
- elevates brain fog
- improves ones energy levels (draining your balls multiple times a day isn't good energy preservation tactics)
- trains will power

Neutrals:
- doesn't cure anxiety
- doesn't cure depression

Negatives (under assumption you do nothing else to improve your well being except abstention):
- anxiety levels explode (removed anxiolytic and antidepressive effects of OXT and VAS)
- depression episodes become more severe (again no more OXT and VAS to numb your emotions)
- mood swings (dopamine overshooting and undershooting baseline level during fluctuation)
- insomnia (anxiety isn't beneficial for sleeping)

That being said, for me no PMO and especially "hardmode" is well worth it. Elevated energy levels and spare time can be used to make radical lifestyle changes which will positively affect anxiety, depression, self-esteem, physical condition and make you mentally more stable person. So abstention with lifestyle change is a WIN WIN combination. I wouldn't have energy/will power do changes without abstention and I couldn't abstain without radically changing the way I live.
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More or less i agree with what you wrote here.

llortaton · May 6, 2019

arkad1 said: ↑

So, i started nofap at the end of may 2018, hard mode till november, then had sex 2 times a month and masturbated probably 10 times.
I started using a dating app on january, and masturbated on pics girls sent me there. Beside that, i never watched porn in this timespan.

So, after a year i didn't see any of the incredible advantages people talk about, i don't fell any woman attraction thing, i still have social anxiety, i'm not different in any way.

The only advantages i noticed is hat my backpain has gone, and my skin cleared up a little.

So, for now i just think nofap is 95% placebo...

I was almost forgetting, i never had any problem at lasting 15 20 minutes at least in bed, sometimes a lot more. Now that i'm on nofap it's sometimes difficult to last even 3 minutes, it's really terrible, i can't even enjoy sex this way...

So, little advantages, and a big problem about lasting in bed, not a good deal i think...
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I did 5 days NoFap, and my social anxiety decreased.
My social anxiety is where I breathe manually around people, and I can't control my breathing. When I went 5 days, I my breathing improved by a lot, and so did my nervousness around people decrease. Maybe PMO gave you social anxiety, and its probably still in your brain, but it is up to time to heal that outta you.

Younameit · May 7, 2019

arkad1 said: ↑

You still didn't read the thread, what i wrote, but you came out offending me, like the good religious integralist you are.

Wow, nofap must have made you very calm and smart.
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I'm not even religious haha, it's all based on science and empirical experience

JesusStrength · May 7, 2019

arkad1 said: ↑

So, i started nofap at the end of may 2018, hard mode till november, then had sex 2 times a month and masturbated probably 10 times.
I started using a dating app on january, and masturbated on pics girls sent me there. Beside that, i never watched porn in this timespan.

So, after a year i didn't see any of the incredible advantages people talk about, i don't fell any woman attraction thing, i still have social anxiety, i'm not different in any way.

The only advantages i noticed is hat my backpain has gone, and my skin cleared up a little.

So, for now i just think nofap is 95% placebo...

I was almost forgetting, i never had any problem at lasting 15 20 minutes at least in bed, sometimes a lot more. Now that i'm on nofap it's sometimes difficult to last even 3 minutes, it's really terrible, i can't even enjoy sex this way...

So, little advantages, and a big problem about lasting in bed, not a good deal i think...
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