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Tired of this empty pleasure seeking

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by alameda, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. Keep going man, think about trying to escape some horrible monster, each day you abstain from it you put it further and further back in your rear view mirror as you drive to safety.
     
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  2. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

    HappyDaysAreHereAgain Fapstronaut

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    A partner both helps and complicates a reboot. There is a forum for people recovering while in a relationship. Your partner often has issues with feeling hurt, betrayed, and left out that could increase your feelings of guilt.
    The important thing is to clean up your act as soon as you can. Then you can move cleanly and proudly into a healthy relationship.
    Hope your reboot goes well.
     
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  3. esforzado

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    Hi, you have to have a reason when quitting from PMO habit, do you think it has bad repercussions in your life, as a cigarette smoker is afraid of the consequences of his habit, losing lung capacity and/or getting lung cancer. So, tell us what is your reason or reasons. It would be a start, something to begin with. Think and meditate, do what I am suggesting, then ask for advice and resume your fight. You can win, it´s hard and you have to get counsel, but you can win. Any religious beliefs?
     
  4. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

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    I am sure that you have heard, "No pain, no gain." It sounds like you must be making great gains. I am sorry about the pains, but glad you are committed to seeing this through to a renewed you.

    Falling into an addiction is so easy,but climbing out takes effort. It is almost as if we had sold our soul for a big pile of unearned good feelings. Now, to be free, we have to do the work and endure the pain that we should have done to have felt so good for so long.

    The pain and flatlining can be balancing and reordering our mind and body to the reality that nothing in life is free. We pay up front, or we make payments forever, or work hard and settle up in a short, concentrated reboot. Hang in there and see it through to the end.
     
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  5. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Yeah I think so. This is a really good point I definitely thinking working for satisfaction is definitely sort of lost with simply being able to click a button to get "pleasure". I'm definitely feeling better this evening, I think partly because I am facing my feelings rather than just blocking them out which allows an actual natural release and clarity.
     
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  6. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    I think it can complicate it. My girlfriend has been away for a week and it has been a lot easier to not be tempted to have sex etc
     
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  7. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    My reasons are that im disconnected when I have sex with my partner because I relate more to porn. I am worried I will feel true connection when have sex again if I dont stop.... I feel depressed and anxious after I pmo; my energy is deflated. Pmo has numbed my ability feel much pleasure when having an orgasm... I've developed fetishes that I keep thinking of when having sex. Im not against erotica "(though i dont have the luxary to enjoy it anymore) but now I always go to things like webcams etc which is clearly an abhorrent world where girls are just being objectified and exploited. Yet somehow as we all know; we tend to go for more and more extremes with p. I wouldnt say I am religious; but I am not close minded and I also take a lot from certain religious perspectives.. I do meditate and that has helped for sure.
    Already going 13 days without pmo - I feel so much more confident and connected to the actual world where happiness needn't be something complicated it can be just be the simple things like a cup of tea, hanging out with a friend... I have more energy to get things done....
    Constantly going to pmo to numb myself means never facing (reality) where my life is going and it means I just stay in the same position... I am already making better decisions I feel. Its a very tough time quitting this but I think its worth it. I need to change all of my life. This is one aspect.
     
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  8. Runtilmylegsdropoff

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    If you feel you must take some significant measures to help you overcome this addiction, I agree with you that you should do it. Especially the part of cancelling your internet subscription.
     
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  9. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    thanks man, that really helped :)
     
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  10. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Indeed. Though getting rid of images of googles settings has been a huge help against triggers. that and k9 website blocker.
     
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  11. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

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    Bathtub, I am glad that you are coming up with tools like K-9 that will help you to stay on track. I think that you might to work on what sex is for. It is exciting and makes us feel good, but making me feel good may not be the most important thing in sex. If she is more than a contracted (or manipulated) sex object, her needs and desires might be as important as mine. Maybe I should be making certain that I give her what she wants like she wants it, even when that is not exactly what I want at this moment. When I help her, it is awesome; when I help her, and she helps me, then it is incredible. If I just want her to take care of me, I may be still stuck the world of P.
    Instead of thinking of P for ways to use her to help you get off, could what you have seen help you to make her night more exciting for her?
    There is no possible way to relate to porn. It is not a person. It is a series of scenes of actors on a screen. We cannot do anything to affect it but turn it on or off. We can't be nice to it, and we cannot get it to relate to us. The next time we watch it, it will be exactly, mechanically the same. The director, the actors, and the finished movie do not care about us. There is no possible relationship. We can watch it and allow it to pump us full of dopamine, but P is no more how to have real sex than "Furious 7" is how to drive. It is all Hollywood escape, and not to be believed, and certainly should not be practiced neither on the street nor in the bed would it be appropriate. Accept that sex can build your relationship with each other as you bless each other. P can only destroy both of you and your relationship, while you fill your tanks with dopamine for a few moments.
     
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  12. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Day 15 without P day 4 without m. I havent been thinking that much about pmo today been busy and around people which is always something that stops me thinking about it. However as it is many times on this forum complaceny is a killer. It nearly got me, I had very strong urges just as I thought I was not thinking about it. Suddenly I was thinking "Ah yes that would be a good things to do" Luckily Im a bit more aware so I know when these things can take place...
     
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  13. jpk901

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    Stay strong brother. we all have low days, and we occasionally get those lowest of the lowest days. It shall too pass, even though it seems quite unlikely at the moment. Just know that you are loved by a lot of people, and for that, you are so much better than this.
     
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  14. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Thanks for the support!!!
     
  15. aingdk11

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    Dont worry bro if theres a will theres always a way.been on and off also i fucked my 2month nofap strikes but im keep doing the nofap and im 30yo bro :) maybe u should tell ur gf bout ur pmo addiction cus soon or later she will know it based from my experience.anyways goodluck bro!
     
  16. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Day 16 without p Day 6 without m.
    Went out last night to keep busy and had a music rehearsal throught the day today in which I didnt once think of pmo. Which we've established I dont do when around people. However now im tired and im home and feeling a bit wired and would like to pmo to just unwind and switch offffff. Thats the truth but I dont want to listen to that urge.
     
  17. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Day 17 without p and day 7 without masturbation or sex. Woke up extremely early today just couldnt get back to sleep. Felt a little anxious. I have really strong urges today pretty constant. Cant seem to think of anything else. I feel quite addicted to the internet. I have procrastinated quite a bit today as well which then leads to me feel crap about myself, and then that makes me think oh well if you get that release then I will be able to focus. But I cannot ejaculate because I dont want to mess up the chances of rewiring my brain. Ive never made it to 90 days with masturbation or sex before so this is definitely tough... I'd like to think this is just a sign of me recovering and that is strengthening my mental strength in general... Definitely on alert to do I feel like im danger of acting out :( Im concerned to do exercise as that tends to me sexual urges stronger afterwards. Anyway I need to find a way to to calm and be more focused without having the release of ejaculation...
     
  18. Vinsent

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    Hey man, I've found excercising to also increase the urges which is a bummer. Is there perhaps something work related that you can focus on instead?
     
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  19. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Day 19 without p and hopefully soon when its uk style time it will be 9 days without m and o.
    Im feeling good about this decent streak but feeling pretty terrified im going to cave in. its 2.43am and I cant sleep so I decided to do some productive stuff and then ofcourse triggers were taking over. Im also feeling a bit sad as my cat that was born in 1998 probably has to be put down as she isnt very well anymore not bad going for such an old cat though... - im quite easily upset but stuff like this - I remember when Robin Williams died and I relapsed.... (I am overly sensitive) I have often turn to pmo as an escape from a sad feeling.... I really wish I was religious at times like this as it would be a lot easier to maybe believe in something that gets me through (im open minded, just dont follow a religion). Anyway one thing I do know; I tend to write songs a lot and this is good for creative release but its also leads to me being a fantasists as I tend to be in my dream world sometimes and that can definitely lead to pmo which is very fantasy escapist based. its almost like when I feel high from something ive written I then want to continue that high and I think about looking p.. (I know that sounds crazy, what I mean is, the nature of being a writer means that you can live in your own fantasy world in general.) I am impressed with my ability to be mindful though when I have these urges so im pushing through. Very tough couple of days im hoping its going to get a bit easier. Work is a bit slow at the moment so I need to push through. It hasnt that helped that ive been having such intense mood swings. It seems my lack of dopamine is driving me crazy. I really just want to relate to the opposite sex in a natural way again - I turned 31 in feb - I really have to to try and change this time.

    Tomorrow I can try and

    Meditate again "I am not the body, I am not even the mind"
    Be kind to myself
    Give to others
    Sleep
    Smile
    Make a future plans and push through
    Work on something important
     
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  20. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    My cat was put down yesterday. She was my childhood cat. I was pretty much an only child so pets were kinda my brothers. anyway - in the past i have I have used pmo to escape. Been so very tempted today but I am not going to. I do keep checking out girls though; I read on here that it hinders your progress but that is the sort of fantasy type behavour which i cant afford to do until i rewire my brain? I suppose im just grateful im actually seeing real girls not just pixels. however; ive be so tempted since I got home this evening that i need to stop the fantasy stuff I feel anyway. Very sad about my cat; but im not gonna use pmo to esape. I lost my dad when I was like 11 so I think childhood stuff sort of haunts me a bit as well. Death or loss in general... this new me tries to feel pain and sadness as it is and tries not to hide. no matter how painful it is.
     

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