200 Days. EXTREME Withdrawal / Flatline.

Are you doing something you consider normal and harmless that maybe isn't so?

Like are you someone who drinks several energy drinks like Monster a day and thinks that's ok?

 

i also have trouble similar to you, 27 started pmoing a lot since i was since i was 11 or may be younger who knows, 2 years ago i couldn't speak 2 lines properly and couldn't look anyone with straight face, i was 89kg of weight,had eating disorder and had severe anxiety and depression and a lot more...basically i was a walking wreck and a waste of a human being i must say.
I would say that i have improved over 60% that i used to be as i can last 10-11 days in general without pmo, lost around 26 kg of weight and got rid of my acne and extreme hair fall problem but I'm still suffering from problem like panic attacks,extreme mood swings,waking up in the middle of night,paranoia,pain in chest and "foggy" head and sometimes vision also and i also went through lots of medical check ups and diagnosed nothing but peyronie disease thanks to my self abusing habit.
I would suggest cut down on your supplement,non vegetarian diet like meat etc ,cigarettes and alcohol intake.
Walk a lot,meditate do charity or something that can make you feel contempt and secure.
Drink lots of water.
Avoid watching tv,cell phone, food,internet atleast 2 hrs before sleep
Take remedies if you have frequent nightfalls.
Reduce weight if you're overweight and negativity in you( only you can figure out how you can).
To increase concentration study for 10 mins, walk around listen music then again for next 10 then again study for next 10 and do this for atleast 1 hr for a week then slowly increase the time span.
Read novels anything that can increase your concentration and you have trouble studying from books study in bits n pieces like from visual source materials, apps and audios etc...thats how i manage as i couldn't concentrate on a task for 2 mins straight now i can endure 30-40mins max before everything starts going over my head
........................Let me know if these tips provide any help.................
And Anyone kindly suggest me how to achieve 90 days streak as i've been struggling for it for a long time and i have some stressful family and job circumstances and i also have very troubling love life got 3 serious heart breaks including one last week so i think sometimes i lack on the motivation factor and all the disappoints make me reach my fck it zone that leads to pmo and currently my fear me going to self destruct and bad karma is only driving me to improve but i want do go for this positive motivation and i want to improve my cynical self.

 

90 days isnt going to cut it if you masturbated up to 5 times a day. You need a full reboot. Maybe it will take 8 months. Try slowing it down also.

Those that masturbated 5 times a day or more will have the hardest reboot because the addiction level is higher.

You need a full clean reboot with no relapses.

 

In terms of overall exercise...your body needs rest also.

 

Oh dude i know how hard that fucker can be. Ive been dealing with symptoms like yours for a 1 year and i know how you exactly feel bro everyone i talked were like "you cant get rid of it, just go along with it for the rest of your life." NO man fuck them you will be okay jusy like i did. I have no more panic attacks, i dont recommend you to take drugs thats just like giving up dont give up. Btw my problem was because of heavy alcohol /caffeine/pmo. I got rid of pmo and now for now im feeling okay

 

Damn man , I feel it for you .

I am suffering from Anxiety, Stomach Anxeity, Social Anxiety, Panic Attacks .

I believe it's from years of stress built up without any exercise and heavy PMO and heavy Smoking .

I am on my 5th day and I already feel my stomach is doing much better . I would suggest to continue what your doing . Do not masturbate at all . Just throw out the idea you need to fap.

 

Hey man for more serious cases the flatline can be much much longer some guys it might last a full year our brains are so fucked up like gabe deem from reboot nation it took him like 9 months to heal up and start functioning normally that was 270 days if he can do it im sure you can just gotta keep moving forward no matter what gotta kill every single vice you can and become the person you need to be

 

I can relate to the symptoms cuz I'd been masturbating half my life since I was like 15, for an average of 1-3x a day with some days around 5 or 6 just to see how far I could go and I'm 31 now. The withdrawal symptoms are so severe I always feel paranoid like I might have some strange illnesses.

 

I can relate to your experience. I am a year and a half into my journey. Started early 2016 and experienced very much similar experiences as you did. As of Today, I am about 6 months clean of PMO and recovered 80% of my symptoms. I expect to be symptom free around July.

I will share some knowledge I've picked up that may be of use to you:

1. Conventional medicine and doctors do not have the education to deal with modern phenomenons
like internet/pmo addiction, therefore symptoms may often go undiagnosed. You are not crazy, there is definately something that needs addressing for you. And Rewiring/Healing of the Brain is definately real.

2. Conventional medicine often are best utilized to look for extremes or the presence of diseases, (cancer, tumors etc).
They are not very good at addressing "Weaknesses, or sensitivities."
Ex. Someone can have sub-optimal thyroid values, yet still be considered "Healthy," according to conventional medicine. Say 10/10 is optimal and 1/10 is just before being diseased. If you are anywhere in between, the doctor will say you are fine.
Their motto is, "Absence of Disease,"
Now we ask ourselves. For someone who has close to shitty thyroid levels gonna have their quality of life affected? Absolutely. This is the paradox and ultimate weakness of this system. So keep that in mind, and look for alternative options to your predicament. Do your own research.

3. PMO affects the entire system, both the brain and the body.
An Orgasm uses energy in the realms relevant to a high intensity stressfull exercise. Now consider this: When you have a hard workout, you need several days of rest minimum until you can recovery what was lost during the output. For habitual addicts who orgasm too frequently, they are putting the body into overdrive where it cannot recover enough in time, and begins to look for fuel in other areas, ie. adrenals, muscle tissue, neurotransmitters etc. This is where your body becomes taxed, and you begin to see a host of symptoms starting to arise ie. weakness, insomnia, anxiety, etc. And with the danger of Porn you are able to stimulate your brain and body to heights not normally achievable naturally. Its like stimulation on steroids. The body eventually reaches a state of exhaustion, and depending on the severity can require up to 2 years to fully restore what was lost ie. its taken me a year and a half to get recovered enough to function normally.

4. Different people have different Body Affinities.
-One of the reasons you see different recovery times in people is due to their body's affinity. Some people have "stronger" bodies or stronger genetics, to be able to withstand stressful activities, and also recovery quicker. They have stronger organ systems. Sensitive people, or people who start to experience health problems under 30 normally have weaker affinities. I would say I had a below average affinity, as I am only 25.

5. Strengthening the Pillars of Body, Mind and Spirit are all required for a successful recovery
-If you are having health problems, start doing some research and experimenting on finding a lifestyle, diet, supplements that work for you. Removing junk foods, eating clean, getting your vitamins are all a good start.
-For the MIND, I found nothing strengthens it more than a healthy Abstinence NO PMO Streak. Meditation is another good option, as well as exercise if your body can handle it.
-For Spirit, get some alone time and get in touch with the Universe. Communicate your feelings, desires, and emotions.

Leave no stone un turned, and keep searching, you will find the answers you seek.

Mateo

 

Minimum 1 year Reboot you should Stay on nofap have Streak 200+ its all get better slowly with Time.

It can take up to 3 years.

 

Me too just one fap and I got chronic fatigue. I'm scared fapping now.

 

Hey Man,

Trust me you're not alone. I've coming up on the one year mark of my nofap journey. I have not relapsed to porn at all and had only masturbated once in an (unsuccessful) attempt to restart my libido and lessen the withdrawal effects.

This year has been by far the roughest of my entire life. I have felt a very strong sense of detachment/ depersonalization and have literally not felt anything like myself in a long ass time. I have tried over 20 (at least) supplements. Everything from ginseng to all of the dopamine enhancers (L-dopa, murucna pruriens, L tyrosine, etc.) I have gotten several blood tests and was very close to going on TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) which would have been a lifelong commitment. Luckily a second (and third) blood test showed that my testosterone was not low. I had an unsuccessful stint on Welbutrin and have tried numerous natural anti-depressant supplements.

The point is that everything came back negative and nothing has seemed to help. I had to come to the realization that the extreme depression, chronic fatigue, anhedonia, brain fog and extreme lack of libido were indeed withdrawal effects from porn/ possibly masturbation (idk jury is still out on that.) I know that these symptoms are related to withdrawal as I have never dealt with anything close to this in my life.

I don't want to discourage others who are in earlier stages of their nofap journey as I am an extreme case and there are MANY who start to heal much earlier than I have. But the point is that there are others like us who need to accept that this is going to be a long journey.

By all accounts none of these flatline/ withdrawal symptoms are permanent and I have read many, many stories of guys who took 1 year+ to start seeing improvements.

The things that have helped me the most have been daily meditation, keeping a clean diet, and trying to exercise as much as my body will let me. Most importantly I've tried to keep my mind right. I've tried to keep the perspective that this is just a really shitty impermanent period in our lives and that when we make it to the other sides we'll be stronger for the experience. I truly believe that and if you can come around to truly believing that as well, I think that it will be a tremendous help.

We'll get through this bro, just know that you're not alone. There are many on this site and others fighting the same life or death battle, and probably even more who don't realize the root of the problem and will have to go through this same hell eventually.

Hang in there mate, you're not alone. Keep the faith and keep fighting. We WILL get through this.

 

Hi dude! How are doinh those days? Did you relapse ? This post was 1 year ago. Im in 100 day and suffer almost the same symptoms as you.

 

I'm wondering the same, let us know