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Why is the divorce rate so high in America?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Namekian23, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. Namekian23

    Namekian23 Fapstronaut

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    I've thought about this question for a while. I just don't understand how the divorce rate in America is almost 50%. That's ridiculous! I know in some other countries (like those in Asia) marriage is considered sacred and must be taken seriously. Of course, most of them are arranged marriages, but still. In other countries, divorce is strictly forbidden, and can result in punishment.

    In the past, such as the 1950s, the divorce rate was much lower than it is now. Is it because we don't take marriage seriously anymore? Can anyone give me an idea of why that is? I'm also curious because two of my friends are getting married next year, and another was supposed to have a wedding, but that never happened because of conflicts between the two. It actually bothers me a lot because I wish to have a happy marriage of my own one day.

    I've been hurt by many people...so I'm very cautious about who I choose to be with. I really don't believe in dating, relationships, or marriages. It just gives you the option to believe that just because you can date another person, you can have many relationships and marriages with them. Just imagine of all the people who have been hurt? For me, I believe in the primal elements that keeps a couple together: Love, trust, compassion, etc. And after hearing so many negative stories of other people falling in and out of love, others being hurt, and so on, I wonder what's the point of marriage? And what's the deal with child support, prenups, and so on? Why are we getting to this point and are there other countries going down the same route?
     
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  2. Drew140

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    That's a myth. It's on 1/3 for couples married after 2000. People are marrying later and are more educated. Age is the number one predictive factor of divorce. The 50 percent is the baby boom generation.
     
  3. Poseidon

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    Nobody should be forced into a marriage and nobody should be forced to stay in a marriage where they are no longer happy.
     
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  4. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    And it's 80% of first marriages and 30% of second marriages... So they split the difference.
    50%

    3rd time is the charm?
    (haha)
     
  5. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    People are finally listening to me lol
     
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  6. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    *high five*
     
  7. noonoon

    noonoon Fapstronaut

    I think you answer your own question. In America, people don't "believe in marriage". They "wonder what's the point of marriage?"
    Believe it or not, these are not "normal" questions. A culture, a healthy culture, answers these questions for you. A healthy culture establishes a belief system in which people are lead to do things that benefit the culture. For example, the culture might lead you to believe it's sacred. Or that it is a means by which men mature and grow in wisdom. Or that it is simply a good and Godly thing to have a family, raise kids, and thereby benefit the rest of society.
    Your questions are ones that lead people to Conservative philosophies. You soon see the benefit of Tradition. You start to question if something is good simply because it's new.
    As to why the culture is dying? In the simplest terms it is because people are abandoning their "old Traditions" and "progressing", though if you ask me it isn't good progress more often than not.
     
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  8. Millenial

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    In the UK it is much the same. People want the perfect life and the perfect sex life. The idea of seeing a marriage as something that has to be worked on is too much for some people. If you ask me it is:
    Decline of Religion and easing of divorce laws.
    Cult of individualism ( people going their own way )
    Idealised view of marriage ( got from Romantic movies and books ).

    If we'd all been forced into marriage maybe we wouldn't be sitting around posting on sites like this. Yes it would cause some different problems but it would sure as hell solve a few. Loneliness too is really high in the west but less so in places like India ( largely because of arranged marriages ) .

    Totally agree. It is not really progress at all, just change.
     
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  9. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Perfect sex life......
    Maybe women should put the vibrators away and men should stop watching porn and people should communicate and pay attention to each other's sexual needs and not screens....
    Oh, My!
    Idea!!!! :emoji_bulb:
    Lol
     
  10. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    We don't live in a perfect world
     
  11. Poseidon

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    You are delusional.
     
  12. True. To quote Mark Manson "Love is a funny thing. In ancient times, people genuinely considered love a sickness. Parents warned their children against it, and adults quickly arranged marriages before their children were old enough to do something dumb in the name of their emotions.That’s because love, while making us feel all giddy and high as if we had just snorted a shoebox full of cocaine, makes us highly irrational".

    Having said that according to this article relationships among millennials are more successful than their previous generation.

    I've said it before and will say it again the best thing I've read on relationships and marriage is 1,500 People Give All the Relationship Advice You'll Ever Need by Mark Manson. The thing that makes it so great is - as the title suggests - he interviews a lot of people who've been married 10 + years. The interviews consist of those who are still married and those who've been divorced. Those who are still married reveal what they've done to stay together and those who have had failed marriages tell of what they did wrong.

    The bottom line is marriages fail when people get married for the wrong reasons. The wrong reasons include:
    Getting married due to pressure from family and friends.
    Getting married because they're fed up of being single and marry the first person that comes along.
    Getting married to impress other people.
    Being naive thinking that romantic love and/or sex will solve everything.
    Thinking that your SO will fix you.

    Relationships work when you like, admire and respect the person you're with.

    Anyway I'd recommend reading the article it mentions what I've just written and a whole lot more. It's quite a long read but there's also an audio version available.
     
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  13. Millenial

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    I am just saying that there are pros and cons, whereas you say it is
     
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  14. Namekian23

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    Can anyone give me an answer as to why there's so many altercations with child support, prenups, and wills? For example, like that guy Hugh Hefner and the next Playboy girl that's gonna inherit all of his money.
     
  15. SnowWhite

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    Maybe we have finally found that strict monogamy doesn't work and we need to find other approaches.
    Also, people are highly individual and independent these days. On the other side, this also leads to a lot of insecurity.
    I dream about good monogamy, but I also understand that it needs two people who are very stable.
     
  16. I think the high divorce rate is because people get uglier as they grow older and people are very superficial and divorce.

    The underlying problem cannot be discerned by looking at divorce, but looking at marriage. That is where the problem is. Very few men and women get married because they love the other person. I think many marriages are marriages of relief. Relief that they have found someone that is willing to take them on! I also think that most marriages have nothing to do with love. The couple are just infatuated with each other.

    For example, love at first sight is impossible. You cannot love a complex human being the first time you see them. All you have to go on is their appearance - i.e. physical/sexual infatuation. That is why, when those looks and sexual attributes fade (droop or shrink :rolleyes:), the marriage is over and divorce follows. Infatuation at first sight is a bad basis for marriage.
     
  17. Baroque

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    There's a number of reasons why the divorce rate is so high in America.

    No-fault divorce is the most obvious one. It's been the law in every state for decades now. With no-fault divorce, you don't need a legitimate reason to file for divorce. It can just be "irreconcilable differences."

    Women have always initiated the majority of divorces, even before no-fault divorce. But nowadays, they're more incentivized to get a divorce since the courts almost always rule in their favor. In addition to income from her job(most women work now), they can get alimony and child support if the couple had children.

    Up until recent times, marriage was a religious practice. Having the state regulate marriage was a big mistake.

    Also, the man and woman's family aren't involved in the marriage like they used to be. It used to be a woman could only marry a man her father approved of. Now, she can marry whoever she wants. Her father's opinion be damned.

    Anyway, those are my thoughts on why the divorce rate is so high in America.
     
  18. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Some women pay alimony.
    It's just rarer.
     
  19. Lions

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    I don't know about statistics in any country, and well maybe it's cheesy to say this but I think that porn has greatly influenced in those divorce percentages.
     
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  20. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    You had me at perfect sex life.
     

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