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Is this really the right way?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Breaking Fap, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. Breaking Fap

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    At the moment it seems to me, that I am simply incapable of really breaking fap.
    I am constantly falling back. And its getting harder and harder to keep up a strike of clean days.
    This is not a complaint, complaining about my own behavoir would be ridiculous.
    I wanted it 5 minutes before.
    How can I stop wanting it? How can I stop wanting (physical)sexual stimulation?
    How can I make a free, ridiculous, unbouding, unbiased, spontaneous, incoherent, unfamiliar decision? Just for fun. I want to make the unfamiliar, spontaneous, experimental, incoherent decision of Not wanting sexual stimulation.
    I am now making the decision, just for experimental purposes, or just for fun, ... well thats easy to make because I fapped a few minutes ago.

    I find nofap becoming more and more ridiculous, mindless abstinence. I am not a computer programm to rewrite. These habits are there, but maybe they have their meaning.
    I want to feel again the exitement of creative activities. Almost everything I do today is very halfhearted and dry, cold, dead. Committing suicide would make no difference for me personally. I am not getting sad or depressive, thinking about my self committing suicide (But I do get sad when considering the pain of my mother and the rest of my family, my mother would not survive).

    I basically just continue, because in the past, when my acitivies were more vivid to me, I accordingly accumulated certain amout of skill very quickly, which is still there. I have the hope and demand, that this vividness comes back home again. And I also have the fear of missing an opportunity, if I stop.

    Is Fap really the reason for my lethargy and mood changes?
     
  2. Breaking Fap

    Breaking Fap Fapstronaut

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    Nofap does not work for me.
     
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  3. Breaking Fap

    Breaking Fap Fapstronaut

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    I don't know what Gary Fappedy Wilson would think about it. But every normal human should agree, that surpression of an addiction is not only stupid waste of energy and time, but counterproductive. Everything that is surpressed, from time to time, pops out from another hole.

    I am not going to touch or hurt other people with my behavoir anymore. Next time I want to make hidden shots of (half-)naked women, I take my camera, stuff it into my ass, and shit it out at the next stop. Next time a girl decides to come close to me, I shit into my pants, so she shall opt for flight.

    But I can not not masturbate. How is this possible? SHIT! It would be relieving to just shout that out loud, but I am not able to raise my voice.

    EDIT:
    I know what you want to say, Gary Wilson was only providing the facts about exessive porn use, not making any suggestions about withdrawal. This is not an accusation. This is just my way: I am totally confused, I dont know in which direction to go.
     
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  4. Squeaky Soul

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    I got rid of my addiction. I have rebooted. It's not that hard if you know what to do.

    ~Squeaky Soul
     
  5. Breaking Fap

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  6. Squeaky Soul

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    I am getting the feeling that you either don't have the commitment, or you haven't decided that this isn't what you want to do.

    When I decided to quit, I told myself, "You need to stop wasting time muddling around. You need to put your foot down to this addiction and move on with your life." You can't say, "This is really the last time." and not mean it. MEAN IT WHEN YOU SAY IT:)

    I am the type of person with a lot of commitment. If I couldn't sleep, I would tell myself, I am not going to lay in bed. It is too tempting for me to PMO right now. There were nights where I gave up sleep to not give in to PMO. If you want to be successful, you sometimes have to sacrifice sleep.

    ~Squeaky Soul
     
  7. FormerSkeptic

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    I could have lapsed today, very easily. Its getting harder to keep my mindset strong.

    My experience has been a lot about how my perspective keeps shifting, at the points I could lapse, i've just about convinced myself that not to PMO would be a ridiculous choice. My perspective becomes so distorted that I lose focus on why i'm doing this, or even focus on whether I want to do it, it would be so much more comfortable to return to the old ways.

    I think this is where the real challenge lies, because you will shift and change, your mind will shift and change, and your subconscious will lure you into a place where it can get what it wants. I'm spending so much time on this forum its almost like a new addiction, but it anchors my choice, my resolve to see it through. Without this forum I'm almost certain I would have already broken my streak.

    If you must lapse, do one thing, write down your reasons for doing so (before you act!), then afterwards read those justifications and gain some insight, and hopefully some control. Learn about yourself and grow rather than berate yourself for being human.
     
  8. Squeaky Soul

    Squeaky Soul Fapstronaut

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    It's all about the commitment, guys! More commitment you choose to have, the more spiritual help you get, the better you'll do,

    ~Squeaky Soul
     
  9. coolmike87

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    BreakingFap... you are just really really really addicted. Your mind is making all kinds of justifications. You sound like a heroine addict! lol but seriously man. You know what brought you here. There is nothing cool or anything with self-respect that has to do with masturbating. It is staring at a computer screen with your tool in your hand watching other people screw just so you can feel good for a few seconds. The whole shpeal about its just human nature and your not a computer blah blah blah are justifications and excuses. My biggest fault and criticism with this site is the lack of serious time on here, but the site is young and so are the fapstronaughts. I can promise you that if you abstain and fight the temptation long enough and maybe even seek help from a therapist or a recovery program. even a 12-step program. you really will rewire your brain just like a computer and you wont have to sit in front of the computer and tug at yourself and desecrate and degrade yourself for a few seconds of pleasure that you fantasize about all day.
     
  10. ILiveAgain

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    You're making all sorts of rationalizations that don't really work, and you know they don't work. I don't need to waste time refuting them.

    If you truly are convinced that you are at your best when you masturbate often, then keep fapping and be happy! Why did you join this community though? What kind of answers are you expecting?

    You need to figure out for yourself: 1) what has masturbation or porn done to you; 2) what man you want to be; 3) how are you going to achieve that goal.

    If your answer to 1) is really "has made me a better person" then you don't need to change anything! But we both know that's not true.

    You seemed to be going through some unexpected withdrawal symptoms - the "dreaded flatline" as some call it - but know that these are temporary, and that within several months of quitting PMO you will get back to enjoying life normally without the need to watch porn or masturbate. You can get through that if you know what to expect, and you are strong in your resolve.
     
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  11. no-one-is-immune

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    "When you find yourself in the middle of hell, keep going!"

    Although I am very new to nofap, I think the greatest strength of this site is not the number of people saying "I did it", or "just toughen up". But rather those who just have the hope that today will be different from yesterday and will keep on fighting together.

    I heard a story of an ex-alchoholic, who after being clean for many, many years, simply prayed every day "God, please help me not to touch a drink today". Sometimes the mountain of a week or a month is too much, rather just focus on getting past today.
     
  12. Goodmood

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    You're gonna quit everytime something gets a little hard in life?
     
  13. JohnnyChimpo

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    Jesus Christ, the guy is just here venting, there's no need to get all self-righteous on him. That's a serious problem here I think, we all get frustrated and lash out in some way, all of the people accusing the OP of not being dedicated are doing just that; lashing out due to their own frustration.
     
  14. qinjoah

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    Let the dude vent indeed. He is frustrated like hell and i there is a little logic in his reasoning. If you ONLY try to surpress it will pop up some where else. Thats as old as Freud.
     

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