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Am I addicted, sinful and is this good?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by toshibaki, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. toshibaki

    toshibaki Fapstronaut

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    I masturbate about 1 time per day, for the last many years.
    Often I have time when don't do that for few days in a row,
    but then sexual energy gets accumulated and I must watch porn.
    I don't have girlfriend for a long time.
    I am new here, tell me please some basic steps to do, to make
    my life great with women again, and not with all these porn stars...

    Best regards
     
  2. toshibaki

    toshibaki Fapstronaut

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    I must also say that I am not longer than 10 minutes daily on porn sites.
     
  3. "I must watch porn".

    No. That is an addict's thought. You do not HAVE to. Know yourself, because you won' t get clean until you do.
     
  4. toshibaki

    toshibaki Fapstronaut

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    Why I am not "clean" if I watch porn?
     
  5. toshibaki

    toshibaki Fapstronaut

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    Thanks, I'll watch it.
     
  6. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    Porn is considered a superstimulant. It will rewire the inputs your brain needs. Consider that for most of history, having sex met the need. Porn, because of its design, changes that. It often causes PIED in males.
     
  7. toshibaki

    toshibaki Fapstronaut

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    What do you mean by superstimulant?
    I feel like low on battery after M not stimulated.
     
  8. Porn consumption is essentially drug use, meaning we use porn, the way a druggie would, to obtain our true goal: A dopamine high. "Clean" means free from the addiction. Free from the addiction means, not using porn, at all, to get a dopamine high. You need to know this is what you have, actually, been doing, using P and MO to obtain a dopamine high. In order to over come the addiction, those activities have to stop. One of the difficult thoughts for all addicts, is what I call the impossible thought: I am quitting it, forever. The addiction lies to us and tells us we have to watch porn, or must watch it, or so screws with our brains that it never occurs that giving it up 100% is the only way to overcome it. When you talk about having to use P due to sexual energy building up--NO. That is a lie the addiction has told you. An addict always has a choice, and an addict must own that. An addict has a choice on whether to watch P or not, do it or do not do it, that is your choice. But an addict, if they watch P, then boom, they have no choice but to experience a dopamine high. The first thing you need to do is study your problem so you understand the brain science. I suggest you also research "the hard 90"; 90 days of abstaining completely from porn, MO, sex, sexual thoughts, vanilla porn, porn substitutes, porn memory, porn fantasy, porn imagination. You need to rebalance your brain, and take time to understand, you own you, porn does not own you. I hope this helps.
     
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  9. toshibaki

    toshibaki Fapstronaut

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    Yes, helps, but I am not looking like that. Too much serious. I am not addicted. I just love to watch occasionaly to satisfy myself. Why satisfying yourself is something bad?
    Hey, self pleasure, other name. SELF PLEASURE. When we stopped to love ourselves. Ok, maybe porn is bad, but what's bad in masturbation? It considers a healthy habbit if doesn't suptitute partner, isn't it?
     
  10. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    This should explain it well and in detail:

    https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

    Porn is a sexual stimulant. It encourages your body to prepare to have sex and O. It is much stronger than interacting with a person. That's why it is a superstimulant. Over time, it recodes the brain so the brain thinks that level of stimulation is the minimum required, so regular sex is not effective in the same way.

    Post MO, it is normal to feel relaxed and sleepy, as other chemicals are released.
     
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  11. toshibaki

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    Much philosophy... Ok, I'll try to not M to see what will happen. Thanks for link!
     
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  12. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    P and MO are two separate things. Some will say there can be healthy porn use. Most of us on NoFap at least agree that it is bad for us, like alcohol for an alcoholic. There is much debate over whether or not M is bad, and I believe the official position here is that it is at the discretion of the individual. However, if you are trying to quit porn (and the dopamine rush it provides), it is easiest to do this with no dopamine, which you will get with M and O. After the reboot, some people will return to M and O. Others such as myself intend to remain free of P and M for life. People with religious motivations will often fall into this camp as well.
     
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  13. toshibaki

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    I like religion much, but still think M is good. Maybe I am wrong.
     
  14. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    Again, secularly, there is no one right answer on M. If you are religious, I recommend you contact your religious community to determine whether or not M is considered acceptable for your faith.

    I personally have never been able to M without a fantasy. When I M without P, I tend to have to think of real people, which I consider objectifying them. Because of that, I do not personally consider M to be acceptable, but in no way is anyone else required to hold that view.
     
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  15. toshibaki

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    In my faith, M is sinful.
    Probably mostly because of that, I will stop. But wants to stop with good reasons,
    and I think I've came to right place to stop.

    Thanks for answers and patience. I am reading now book Your Book on Porn
     
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  16. Tesslynne

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    Here's another thing:
    Some guys on here sigh I don't know about the women!
    they found their confidence with women increased when they gave up masturbating and porn and more women seemed attracted to them. I'm NOT saying you'll get this effect, cos maybe you won't. But you said: "...to make
    my life great with women again, and not with all these porn stars..."

    It's POSSIBLE giving up PMO (porn, masturbation and maybe orgasm too but DEFINITELY the first two!!!) might help you with that.
    (Even if it doesn't, the other replies give good reasons!!!)
     
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  17. toshibaki

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    Thanks, here's 4 days of abstinence...
     
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  18. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    Faith can be a good motivation, but it can be helpful to have other reasons you have identified as well. The more reasons you have to stop, if you later decide to doubt a reason, you still have others as backups.
     
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    P is like sugar. It is a super-refined form of something else. Like sugar, P takes something sweet and wonderful--real sexual connection with a lover--and removes all the messy parts and the real benefits, and concentrates it into something "unnatural"-- and by that I simply mean "not occurring in nature."

    Sugar is sweet, and sometimes, it can be a pleasurable experience to immerse oneself in it's sweetness, like candy. But because of its super-concentrated nature, the body begins to change its normal patterns of metabolism, and we become used to its sweetness. And so we seek out more and sweeter things--soda, for instance. The food industry seeks to addict us to the sugar, so it finds ways to spike everythinge we eat with it, so that nothing natural or unprocessed tastes sweet any longer. Over time, the constant exposure to the super-concentrated sugar causes our metabolism to break down, and the body can no longer work with it. That disease is "diabetes," and it is accompanied often with obesity. Obesity is a symptom of sugar addiction and malnutrition.

    So P, as a super-concentrated form of sexual stimulation destroys our ability to feel the power of natural sex, which isn't nearly as intense as P. The P industry is always seeking new ways (new scenarios, more intense fantasies) to addict us to its own form of sex, so that over time, we have no real sexual connection with other people.

    The good news for us is that if we stop eating the highly sugared foods and beverages, over time, our bodies can return to normal--diabetes and obesity can be cured completely--and fruit tastes sweet again.

    Likewise, giving up P lets our minds and bodies recover from the hyperstimulation, and eventually, we can reconnect in real, satisfying sexual relations with people.

    I, too, have relied on brief bursts of P to help me reach O, so technically, I'm probably not fighting a full addiction, but since I have stopped using it, my relations with my husband are powerful, and M by myself has become much less powerful. (Read my intro post for that whole story.)

    So the point is that while you may not be "addicted" in every sense of the word to P now, if you continue to rely on it for sexual gratification, it probably will become an addiction. Get out now, while you still can.
     
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