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Can't climax or maintain erection?

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by NoMoreFfap, Mar 24, 2017.

  1. NoMoreFfap

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    I'm 35
    I can masturbate to orgasm easy with no issues. I do look at porn on a regular basis during masturbation but can still climax without it. I also have a fetish but it's not necessary to climax.
    It's my 4th day today on here.

    I used to masturbate between 1-3 times a day, sometimes 4. Driving home from a trip a month ago I ended up masturbating twice on the road, I couldn't resist. It wasn't even an hour apart.

    That being said, while with women...I take FOREVER to climax and it takes soooo much physical assertion and tons of mental concentration. And that's when I can maintain an erection. I have no prob getting up during foreplay and up to the act but once we get going, it goes away and comes back and goes away and then goes away completely.

    I suffer from anxiety and depression and take Wellbutrin. But My gut tells me it's my addiction to my self stimulation.

    Please tell me I'm going
    To be able to have successful sex if I keep up with this reboot.
     
  2. V.Faptor

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    Hey!

    I don't have much experience, but i know something about this subject... (I have gone completely limp during sex while woman on top)

    I have the same problems with women, i can't keep it up and i can't come or it takes way too long. With masturbation i can come in minutes sometimes in seconds.

    Reason to this is over stimulation from masturbating!
    You have lost the sensitivity down there because of it, when you stop masturbating it comes back and you should also be hornier and more excited about women!
    I mean think, you can adjust everything when you are masturbating,pressure,speed,grip...everything, you can't really adjust vagina or women. Women can tighten their vagina with pelvic floor muscles during sex and permanently with exercises...but this is something you have to ask them to do..Though it might not be too noticeable. Men can also do the pelvic floor exercises to get better erection and sensitivity,but unlike women(can tighten) you can't really grow your penis. I personally find it hard to keep doing these exersices on a regural basis, but i'm planning to try it on my reboot.

    So yes, reboot helps! Just keep it going and stay strong! I'm on a day 3!
     
  3. Anonymous86

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    Why do we lose over stimulation from masturbating so much? Is it a physical penis change or a brain change, V.Faptor? I'm going to guess, it's a physical brain change?
     
  4. GG2002

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    It's largely a chemical change in your brain that says you must have the higher stimulus that porn provides and real sex cannot. In simple terms. But google and read your brain on porn it explains it fully. It feels physical to the man. Many men says they have a numb penis from sex but it's actually not a physical issue. It's that your brain is sending the signal to your penis that you are not stimulated enough. For men with DE they can stay hard for hours but their mind is not stimulated enough to reach orgasm. It's also for some men in part physical. Many suffer from death grip syndrome or masturbate at a very rapid pace or with no lube so they have trained their bodies to only get off a certain way and that way is something sex will never replicate.
     
  5. Anonymous86

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    So my brain is sending the signal to my penis that I'm not stimulated enough? Is that the reason why my penis has shrunken and my balls droop?
     
  6. GG2002

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    Are you saying that your penis has actually changed size? Gotten smaller? If that's the case you should see a medical doctor. That sounds like a physical issue. I've heard of some rare cases where vigorous masturbation can cause damage but you def should see a doctor. The drooping balls could mean if you have not masturbated in awhile or had sex and they are just full that's normal.
     
  7. Anonymous86

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    I did see a doctor. A urologist and my primary care doctor twice. My urologist found nothing wrong with me and the same happened with my doctor. He guaranteed nothing was physically wrong with my penis. I had a sonogram and bloodwork and everything.

    I one day masturbated prone and the following 2-3 days my penis lost sensation, got smaller, my libido disappeared, and my balls now droop. Prior to this, I masturbated multiple times a day to photos for years. I've been stuck in this flatline symptom for a year

    Sounds like PIED/Flatline to me. What else could it be?
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2017
  8. GG2002

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    I know you are in a hurry to have this issue resolved but you say you are only on day 4 so maybe day 6 now? It it going to take a lot longer than that to see results. Think about how long you have been PMOing for it won't happen overnight. For some people it's 30 days some it's 90 and some even longer. You should see some sort of change within a month such as returned sensitivity but the ability to orgasm with a woman from intercourse can take longer or may not ever happen or happen only once in awhile. There is no way someone can tell you to a certainty that you suffer from PIED. The only way you can know is with the passage of time. I can't promise you stopping pmo will fix it but it's worth a shot to try based on your description. Be strong no masturbation and no porn. Many people slip up and that's okay, but it does delay the healing time each time you do. If after 90 days you see no change then I would seek out a mental health counselor. It could be anxiety or some other issue but I think stopping the pmo will fix it. If you have a partner she will need to be really patient with you and it's not easy. Be open and honest with your partners. It will cut down on your own anxiety. Only time will price your diagnosis. it's understandable to be freaking out and want to fix this but there is no quick easy fix. I am the partner of a man that finally admitted he suffers from PIED. He could never ejaculate with me in a year we were together. He looked for every other solution and refused to admit it was the porn because he did not want to stop. He wanted to keep PMOing and have great sex with me but that was just not possible. He finally stopped when I told him porn or me. He's 47 so he'd been doing it longer than you. After 30 days I have been able to make him orgasm with oral sex twice which in his year of PMOing never happened. It works. He still cannot orgasm from sex but that takes longer. He never had the flat line but lots of men do and it is normal just give it time. Go over to the accountability forum and get yourself a partner. Stick to the no pmo and soon you will have your answer.
     
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  9. Anonymous86

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    I currently see a mental health counselor. But I have underlying issues, and frequent porn use was my 'coping skill' for many years.

    I was hyper-aroused prior to this supposed flatline, so I think that porn use is the culprit. It just makes sense, you know?

    I told my doctor that I can climax and he at least, thinks that's a good sign. However, my penis is very small and it lost sensitivity down there. I also cannot get aroused physically.
     
  10. Health is key

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    This is classic pied!!! The problem is in your brain. You have had such dopamine exposure because of porn that you are not sensitive to it a true all. Let me Guess, sex seems really boring? You cannot physically get aroused by real woman because of watching porn and masturbating. You will most likely go into a flatline in a few days and then in a few weeks come out of it with a strong libido. You are not cured by then! I am warning you from experience. Do not masturbate. Good luck bro. You have a tough journey ahead.
     
  11. Anonymous86

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    Is this directed towards to me, the topic creator, or both?
     
  12. Health is key

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    Mainly the first comment but looks like it applies to you as well. You are definitely in a flatline. Your penis going tiny is classic flatline. It happened to me and mine shrivel led to about 3 cm when usually about 3 inches flaccid. You've got to cut yourself off from pmo completely man. The flatline will end eventually. It is absolute death at the time though.
     
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  13. Matthew Stephenson

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    As to the penis size issue, I can say that your penis size is not static for life. There is some size loss as you get older and have lower testosterone, but that is usually not noticeable on its own. However your body weight is a HUGE factor. When you are overweight you penis can get smaller. It is not only the relative visuals but some internal chemical balance also.

    As to the rest of the discussion, I would say this mirrors my own experience. I also have mental health issues, and developed the long standing practice of masturbating as a way to get the dopamine flowing in my brain. Masturbating to porn is a very easy way to get an erection, get off, and then feel better. The erectile dysfunction comes when your brain becomes accustomed to that easy method of getting off, and real interactions are then too hard. The circuits for arousal just get tied to the porn. What's worse is that like most addictions, it escalates. The porn that once got you off is not enough so the porn gets more explicit, or violent, or outside of your actual sexuality, or any number of ways. That short circuits the entire process. I am doing the 90 hard PMO reboot. I am at day 51 right now, my flatline has ended and my libido is surging (it is just awful right now btw). My understanding and hope is that after that reboot, your brain programming will be "rebooted" back to your baseline sexuality. I am hoping that after 90 days I will be so horny that I will not struggle to keep an erection with my wife, and we can have a normal sexual relationship.

    From what I have read this has benefited many people, so my hopes are high. You should do some more research here on the topic.
     
  14. Anonymous86

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    My penis is also about 3 cm long flaccid and I suffer lots of depressive symptoms and insomnia. I've been in this 'flatline' for about a year now. I never heard many accounts of people orgasming into a flatline?
     
  15. Health is key

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    So have you been pmo free this whole year? With me every time I o I go straight back in a flatline so if you o on occasion that could be why.
     
  16. Matthew Stephenson

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    all of the above is good advice, but you really should also explore all of your medical options. You say you have been evaluated by a urologist, feel free to get a second opinion. You might also consider a referral to an endocrinologist to look into hypogonadism or hypothyroidism, or any other number of hormone disorders.
     
  17. Anonymous86

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    Not entirely. I do orgasm on occasion but not always. I cut out prone masturbation. I've just been on a flatline the entire time. I don't even know if it's a flatline. I doubt it's something such as venous leak. I don't think the penis would shrink in that situation.

    I haven't rebooted because I have issues. Check out my thread here:

    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...s-some-sort-of-weird-pied-flatline-etc.95942/

    I probably should look into an endocrinologist. I could go to another urologist but it's one of those things where I have a feeling this is PIED because I can't aroused and my penis is 3 cm long.

    I hope whatever this is, it's reversible. Fucking sucks. What causes the penis to shrink and libido to die after masturbation?
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2017
  18. Matthew Stephenson

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    I am not a medical professional, but I believe that 3cm would qualify as micropenis. Now usually that is diagnosed early in life, like before puberty. It generally results from a lack of hormones in the womb. If your penis used to be larger and is only now 3cm, then it might be related to weight gain or some other biological changes. The lack of libido is totally consistent with PIED, but some if you have not had your testosterone tested, get it done. I suffered damage to my testicles about 12 years ago and as a result had a severe depletion of testosterone, which in both men and women can lead to all kinds of problems. Continuing your porn sobriety is probably a good idea, but there is no reason you cannot pursue efforts to bring your libido back. Your libido and your penis size are perfectly legitimate medical concerns that you should not be ashamed of, and can address. Anything to do with our sex drives can be uncomfortable to discuss, but it is to your benefit to seek a doctor that will take it seriously.
     
  19. Anonymous86

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    I had my testosterone checked and it was normal according to a doctor. I don't know what this is...
     
  20. Kexas23

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    This is a good thread. I am in the exact same situation as the OP.
     

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