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Doubts about what is pornographic

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Sneijder, Apr 16, 2016.

  1. Sneijder

    Sneijder Fapstronaut

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    Hello, I'm Italian, I'm sorry for how I write. What I want to know that does not fall into pornography?

    1) For example, if I see pictures of totally naked people without having sex, it is pornography? For example see pictures of naked celebrities. I should also avoid it?
    2) Look at me naked, it is pornography?
    3) Making videos nude myself and then watch them or stay naked house is pornography?
    4) See people who masturbates is pornography?
    5) Show me naked chatting to someone, it is pornography?

    I am 5 days that I am abstaining and I would get to 180 days, but I do not know if something among those I have written, I can make them. Thank you.
     
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  2. Worthyofstanding2

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    Pornography are basically explicit images of sexual activity,organs etc... But in all honesty everyone has a different challenge. IF you want to avoid masturbation basically just avoid things that cause heavy sexual excitement. If you want to abstain from masturbation to orgasm basically avoid all things that give you sexual pleasure to a great extent. It doesn't matter what pornography is, it just matters what YOU WANT to avoid. I hope this made sense :p
     
  3. incredulo

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    I have asked myself the same question over and over. My problem is nudity, either watching others or wanting to walk around in the nude. In fact I find what most people qualify as P somewhat vulgar and disgusting especially where there is violent acts or humiliation. Being catholic I have been told pretty much every one of the above that you mentioned is a sin. I asked myself what's wrong with watching me naked in the mirror. And if it is how long can I look before it becomes a sin, say when I get out of the shower and look at myself in the mirror. At some point you have to draw the line otherwise you become insane. In a few words, if any of the above arouses you and cause you to relapse, then you should try to avoid it. Nudity more often than not will lead to M. And that is exactly why I am here. I am in the medical field and when I get horny I start looking at medical files where there are pictures of medical cases, but I know way inside that I want to see naked people.
    From there I go into other cases and pretty soon, I am watching all kinds of cases and I have an erection. Now I am in trouble. Pornography or not, you call it anything you want but if it leads you into wanting to do more and more you are addicted.
     
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  4. incredulo

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    Feel free to contact me. I have exactly the same issues even though I have not gone as far as showing me naked while chatting. I would consider that P since that will lead you to watch more and more. About M no one agrees on that one. Some say is natural others think is a perversion. I look at myself naked I feel that is the way God made me and there is nothing to be ashamed of, but if I start getting an erection I get away from the situation immediately. Definitely I can not watch others naked. It is extremely powerful, my heart goes like crazy, get sweaty and even shaky. It is wild. And do you know what.. when I sit in from of a computer it does not matter where my heart gets going fast as if I knew I was going to watch P. Have you heard Pavlov's experiment.? It is a bitch how conditioned I am to this addiction. Keep in touch it sounds you have the same problem. If you don't mind me asking how old are you?
     
  5. Sneijder

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    I am 21. If you want we can feel, although I being Italian, often we adopt translate Google Translator. I've read everything you've written and I understand very well, yet I love nudity.
     
  6. incredulo

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    What do you mean by " If you want we can feel" I think something got lost in the translation. Please explain
     
  7. incredulo

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    I am three times your age. Ouch... but if you want you can write to [email protected]. Whatever your preference is.
     
  8. Sneijder

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    Damn translation. If you want,we can talk together.Now,did you understand?
     
  9. incredulo

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    oh surely..we can talk about it any time whenever you have time. We could have a very interesting conversation. Have a nice day.
     
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  10. incredulo

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    It is interesting to know that other people ask the same questions I have.
     
  11. Sneijder

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    Undressing chatting is very exciting. I not advise you to try it. For example, now I thought that since we had the same problem, we could see us both into nude chat. It will be a perversion. it's hard to give up on this. What do you think? In these 35 days of abstinence, are you noticing improvements? What benefits? Thank you
     
  12. incredulo

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    No big changes. I still get very aroused by nudity BUT it is easier not to get into P sites. I am not masturbating any more so that is an improvement. The big change is that I am not doing any of that anymore but when I read the word nudity my heart gets going rapidly. Words like undressing, showers, even running water will get me excited. I am telling you this is an addiction. I have never chatted because I am afraid of what I might do or ask the other person to do. Take care my friend we are in this battle together.
     
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  13. Sneijder

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    Also excites me these words: naked, locker room, ... I saw on your profile that you're a bisexual group. I get excited more when I see other naked men. I like best the male but the female body a little less. You?
     
  14. incredulo

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    Exactly the same. And this bothers me a lot. I can tell you about my story. But I refuse to accept the fact that I am gay. However I question myself why, why I enjoy looking at other men naked when I have the same dick they do. But all started many years ago in a very subtle way. Now at my age I am asking myself everyday why do I enjoy that. I gave up going to the gym because I knew inside that I was going there not because I wanted to exercise but because I wanted to hang around other men. I want to feel I was a man and I could walk around naked in front of them. This is crazy man. I hate yet I do not have any explanation.
     
  15. incredulo

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    Have you been involved in any homosexual activity? I have never been but in college I had a great friend and one time he invited me to masturbate with him, but he went to one corner and I stayed in the other. Was that a homosexual activity I do not know but I have always wondered.
    Sneijder I have to go because I have a lunch party but I would like to continue with this conversation. Please keep in contact.
     
  16. Sneijder

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    I just chat with gays there where we masturbated together on cam because I had the urge to do so, only virtual. Infact nothing, I make straight in real life. But I wouldn't have problems I think to do more. Answer when you want, I'll continue to be there and to respond, don't worry. Have a good evening.
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2016
  17. incredulo

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    I am leaving right now but when I get home tonight I will answers any questions you might have. Probably by the time I write back you will be sound asleep but you can read it tomorrow. You are doing great don't do anything in real life that you might regret someday. Keep away from trouble and if possible away from virtual stuff. I understand there is something coming up called Porn VR. from what I understan it is something so close to reality that you will never be able to get away from it. Have a nice day. Looking forward to your questions.
     
  18. Sneijder

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    Ok! Sometimes I forget that among us there is a time zone. About 6 hours difference, here it is 8 pm. Have a good day!
     
  19. Sneijder

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    It would be nice that we were talking in a chat, so we respond in real time and faster. Who uses chat: facebook, skype, something else? So we talk faster! Another of the nice things is that in these months I've always studied English online to improve it. Writing to you, I'll be able to improve so much with this work of understanding, translation, proofreading, writing ..
     
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  20. Jungler

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    I firmly believe that any content that reveals genitals is pornographic. All five of your questions are rather porn substitutes, it's like switching to light-beer even though you have a drinking problem, which doesn't help any less. Even text can be very stimulating.

    I'd say, stay away from anything that might trigger you to relapse. As long as you don't have your hands in your pants and an X rated movie, You're good to go.

    I'm italian too by the way :). feel free to contact me whenever you want to, and i can help out in our own language.
     
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