Angry rant against the rebooting community!

Everything you said, at least subsequent to your initial post, is more or less subjective and your own personal view of how the world works, including your analysis of the thought process of every single member here. I could quote specific examples but I'm on my phone and frankly I don't really care to do that. However I agree with you for the most part, but I dont agree with your making this topic in the first place as it serves no purpose other than to shoot down other members. Essentially the general gist of this post was to say, "you're getting too excited. Calm down." I don't know what purpose this serves, although I can take a guess and assume that it's a supportive harsh reminder to the community that you'll have to put in more work than you thought, but still, I see no actual viable point to making this thread at all, besides putting down other members for having hopes, albeit unrealistic hopes, at least in the context in which you are framing them.

I have the same thoughts when regards to super powers. I don't see super powers developing. Te only thing that I can see is that I'm not as tired necessarily , but I'm also tired just generally some days anyway so I don't see much difference. The only reason I started NoFap was because of erectile dysfunction and I'm not here for the super powers or whatever. But some people say they experience them and if that's the case, more power to them. I won't be dismissive to their claims and I won't be offended that the same isn't happening to me. I'll say good job and continue to focus on myself and my own progress

Edit. I just read the post you made directly above mine and that is the way I think and that's how I view most things, including your post, and I think that's the healthiest way to live life

 

I didn't say that to you. I said tHat was essentially what your post was. If that's what you thought I was saying maybe I phrased that sentence wrong. Anyway I really don't care i only wrote in this topic because I was distracting myself to not masturbate. Anyway please don't quote me again I don't want to come back to this topic no offense meant

 

You lost me. I completely disagree. Not all criticism can be constructive, in fact, a lot of criticism is destructive and divisive. The legitimacy of criticism comes from the mouth that spoke it, not the ears that hear it. The general tone of your posts and arguments is demoralizing and damaging toward the community and it's members.

While I agree that it is important to not expect too much from quitting PMO to prevent discouragement, I think your concern is more about your rant than helping others. So I'll leave you with this thought:

Your frustration with the the reboot community won't be resolved with the validation of these feelings, but learning to accept a more positive attitude about it's members and their enthusiasm. Don't be so cynical.

 

I Think your right that re benefits of NoFap are often exadurated on here. You aren't going to acquire magical abilities from this as some seem to think.

However to think compulsively pmoing won't have negative effects on your life, and that viewing p all day won't affect how you view women is equally wrong.

 

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The bottom line is that this method(nofap) work! Forget about depression and anxiety nonsense, this thing solves much more complicated problems like ED , DE , infertilty etc.which is reason enough for me to be firm believer of this.All other analysis , rants can go to trash.That's it.

 

I know this comment is old but you are absolutely wrong. Sexual objectification is a main part of pornography.

 

I think you have a number of valid points, as others here have said.

It's certainly true that some here have expressed over-the-top hopes and expectations for what abstaining from PMO would do for them; and there is a need to encourage folks toward more realistic expectations. Further, you can certainly find some highly questionable claims in various places here, such as assertions about "semen retention" that are pretty dubious, to say the least.

That said, I think you overstate your case.

I'm not a scientist -- I don't know if you are -- so what follows is not meant as anything other than a layman's judgment. But it stands to reason that consumption of vivid imagery and written material, when linked to the powerful force that sexual desire and satisfaction are, can change our attitudes, beliefs and even desires and responses to stimuli. In other words, I think it's at least possible that heavy consumption of porn can indeed affect attitudes toward, and objectification of, women.

Now, I only defend that as a hypothesis; it remains to be tested, if it can be, and verified -- or not. That's the job of those engaged in the relevant sciences. But I think your flat assertion that this is impossible is dubious. How can you be so very certain?

But, ok, that's your viewpoint, and you've had your say, and I've offered mine.

But there's one more thing: why are you so very angry? That isn't clear to me.

 

Well, I don't know that you used the word "impossible," but when I read both your initial comment, and then comment 18, it seemed to me you were ruling out porn having that influence on people. In any case, if you didn't mean to make your point quite so strongly, that's fine.

Well, this post sure seems awfully angry to me. I'm guessing I'm not the only one who sees it that way. And you did title it, "Angry rant against the rebooting community!" Not just a rant, but an ANGRY rant; and not just against one thing, but against "the rebooting community"--all of us! And with an exclamation point to boot!

Anyway, I am not trying to get your goat, but to give a friendly response.

 

Evidence? The fact that people fap to women or men they've never seen in their life, don't know their name or where they are from its all about the pleasure and to see them nude. That's sexual objectification.

 

OK, I misunderstood you then; I thought you were minimizing it. As I said, I'm not trying to argue with you, just make myself as clear as I could.

 

That's what I meant and that's what I feel porn does to people.

 

Nope. But I know that misunderstanding can easily happen with exchanging written comments, without body language, voice intonation, etc.

I wanted to keep it friendly.