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Sexual Transmutation

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by MuzzyTheArab, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. NitricOxide

    NitricOxide Fapstronaut

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    Hurried response here since I've already read the multi orgasmic man a while ago. The book and taoist practices in general according to my understanding is more about prolonging ejaculation and/or jerking off without ejaculating but achieving orgasms. Which you'd agree doesn't fit our hands off approach no pmo agenda.

    Sexual transmutation as written in how to get rich is about abstinence and putting that energy into worthwhile efforts. All of that is easily digestible. My gripe is with the scant instructions on how to go about this. Which leaves this a very vague topic, imho. Maybe the problem arises, for me at least , with the term sexual transmutation , which sounds pretty fancy. It sounds like a term that has a lot of resource behind it or it should.

    Reading your resources now. Thanks for the reply.
     
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  2. MuzzyTheArab

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    Thanks for the reading recommendations guys! I'll definitely have to check that book out. Its just hard to transfer that energy into productivity sometimes, I'm getting so angry.
     
  3. FormerFapaholic

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    It doesn't matter how you found NoFap, but it's great that you have anyway. Learning and putting sexual transmutation into practice is difficult. But once you gather momentum and get into the routine, it's great and you can achieve a lot from it.

    Coming from personal experience, albeit having teething problems, slips and trips along the way - and still do. Sexual transmutation has been using this extra time and energy from not doing PMO, is being channelled into making worthwhile improvements in me, myself and my life. Like losing weight, getting fitter and healthier. reading books, yoga, meditation, moving out into my own place, getting a new job and forging a new career path, studying and completing online course, to name a few.

    Life goals I've set up, devised action plans in chasing them, reaching these goals and fulfilling the potential that I have isn't going to waste. That's my perception of what sexual transmutation can be for mankind.

    OP, from what you've said there. It's normal to be lethargic at the early stages of NoFap and giving up PMO. I KNOW YOU CAN DO THIS!! YOU CAN BEAT THE TERRIBLE ADDICTION THAT PORN IS!!
     
  4. properWood

    properWood Fapstronaut

    I would speculate that Mr. Hill didn't feel comfortable to write that one should not ejaculate in such a book, and so used a more elevated type of speech, a bit vague on purpose. Although I know men that went for months without any sexual intercourse while single, yours sincerely included, I do not know of any woman in pre-menopausal days who would accept to be with a man that doesn't get intimate with her at least... you know... every now and then, say every two-three days. I would also be a bit frustrated if the lady would say "I'm working on my transmutation, so no sex for you for three years". That kind of relationship is doomed to fail pretty soon. Even in the darkest days of my relationships, sex would still happen say once a week maybe. It's a natural drive (dogs lick themselves too, but not to the point of ejaculation).

    But no one taught me that I could be pleased without ejaculating, nor did I try to see if it works, most of the time was depressed because I could not finish, which made my partners feel pretty awful. Their reaction was not "poor guy is watching too much porn", but "I'm not good enough sexually for him". In the end, neither of us was knowledgeable about what sexuality is and so we all kind of fucked up our energies.

    Anyhow, what I want to drive at is where does abstinence start and ends and is abstinence the same as transmutation? I like taking my long chill-time baths and sometimes I play, though rarely more than a shiver of pleasure here and there. Or... do I have to do a death grip to be crossing the line of abstinence? Is touching the scrotum considered to cross the line? I hope you see where I'm going with this, it's beyond vague.

    Personally, I believe massaging the member doesn't cross the line of transmutation, nor does spending intimate time, including penetration, with a lady. I'd link lack of ejaculation with transmutation.

    I'd further like to throw in the idea that maybe the PMO agenda, while it started and still has a good intention, the M there is not necessarily covering all aspects of sexuality. I think it's warranted in connection to pornography and ejaculation, but not in the masturbation as way of discovering one's body, the tantric way.
     
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  5. NitricOxide

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    Wouldnt that just be edging ??without the ejaculating part.
     
  6. Energy has no consciousness. When I practice no pmo large amounts of energy are built up and what I do with it most of the time are my choice . The key for me is to use the energy in a way that alines with my path when I use it for hate revenge or my own personal desires like sex or money it leaves me unfulfilled . It's been a learning process but the more I dig deeper inside myself the more I become aware that desires are not the answer . For me no pmo is just sexual energy and I can build up a ton of it but I am still learning we're to apply it . No Pmo has worked for me so far by saving my marriage and keeping my faimly together but the temptation to use this power for things that leave me unfulfilled have been a challenge .
     

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