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How do you reward yourself when you overcame an urge?

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by Deleted Account, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. I was thinking about trying out something new, rewarding myself whenever I did something well. My Problem is, I don't know how.

    Sometimes I could have a really good productive day and then relapse. I think it is because my brain is wired to believe it is a treat. So I could have done everything right and then relapse and feel horrible at the end of a great day. That on the other hand would prevent me of trying to have productive days and a healthier lifestyle.

    You see where I'm getting with this..

    What could I do to replace PMOing as a reward? What do you do?
     
  2. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    I think it's important to consider what you think of as a reward, and whether that's necessarily rejuvenating to your system on a physiological level. As we know there's actually some stress involved in PMO especially if edging is involved. On the other hand if you do something that actually helps you relax it would no doubt help your health. I would imagine you have some degree of stress after a productive day?
     
  3. Monty313

    Monty313 Fapstronaut

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    The way I look at it is, the benefits (“superpowers”) you will achieve from semen retention is the real reward. And I say semen retention because I believe it is far more superior than just not watching porn.
    Read/research the benefits of semen retention especially after 60+ days. It’s a huge motivation for me to continue this amazing and healthy lifestyle.
     
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  4. I don't think so, it's probably the opposite (I'm not a doctor, I could misinterpret). I remember an evening having done all tasks at hand, nothing left to worry about and then, left to myself, not knowing what to do, I relapsed.

    One could say it's boredom, I see that. But I also think rewarding-mechanisms play an important role there.

    For me, I think PMO has become a psychological addiction. I might lack some serotonin, but I don't think that's ultimately what keeps me getting back. The reward then might involve something that is psychologically rewarding(?) and not a chocolate-bar.


    .. I'm thinking about the edging-part and the stress involved.. Has to be some sort of self-punishment. Maybe I'd start PMO for a reward and then punish myself because I failed NoFap...
    If that is so, I definitely need another "reward".
    Basically I don't really understand why I'm PMOing, the only reason I could think of is so dark and biologically calculated that I try to not think of it. I just don't want to be stuck in the loop...
     
  5. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    Remember there's different kinds of stress. You may not have any psychological stress after a good day, but given it's the end of the day and you did a good amount of work there's probably physical, physiological stress.

    In which case it is using a psychological association and the perceived stress relief from M to relieve a natural physical stress from work. But the weird part is you're building that up to have the release at the end instead of just finding some other way to relieve the stress in the first place.

    BTW this is exactly why I am not into the traditional inventory (4th step in 12 Step) being framed as a moralistic, black and white judgement. To me there has to be understanding, which means the inventory should be a comprehensive psychologically functional one, which doesn't mean something so simple as identifying one cause for one effect. There may be multiple ones. I can't imagine most people ONLY PMO when stressed and NOT when actually aroused, it's likely both at different times.
     
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  6. That makes sense to me. So, if you don't mind me asking; what do you do when you recognize - which for me would be hardest part in applying your ideas - that you're under physiological stress?

    Meditation comes to mind, which I haven't fully adapted to, because I don't get a strong enough feedback from it, so it seems unnecessary. I know it isn't, but I'm not acting as rational as I explain; so I need to be practical about solutions and putting mechanisms in place. At least that's my approach. If there is nothing I can get to, I fear to get back to porn as I lack to associate any other route in that moment.
     
  7. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    That's an understandable perspective, like anything else it takes some practice.

    For physical or specifically muscular stress, I have one of those "S" shaped massage tools that lets you reach behind your back and hit those points. I have it next to bed so even if I wake up tense somewhere I can roll over and grab it and work on my back a bit.

    If it is more physiological it may be a chemical solution through nutritional supplements. It can get fairly specific, from a mineral like magnesium (but different forms for different parts - mag threonate for the brain and malate for muscles) or herbals if it is impinging more on the psychological through physiological channels.

    As far as meditation goes, you might start more generally and think in terms of two categories of mental and physical stress relief. Meditation is at least somewhat active, but there are passive things like guided meditations and certain types of psychoacoustic recordings for brainwave entrainment which is even more passive and doesn't even require you to follow the voice for guidance. Short inspirational reading of whatever type that puts things in perspective is also helpful on the language level of mind.
     
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  8. Nothing. You shouldn't be givng yourself a trophy for something you should be doing on a daily basis. You have to get it in your head there is no reward for good behavior at this stage in your life. The real reward is the satisfaction of knowing you're better than you were yesterday.
     
  9. I don't want to give myself a trophy, I want to establish better routines that help me get rid of my addiction. I could rephrase the question to: What do you do when you have an urge; instead of PMOing? That takes away the emphasis on "reward".
    I chose to use the term because it's related to reconditioning-therapy.

    Maybe I worded it unfortunately. I'd accept an answer like "I work out whenever I have urges". That can be rewarding in my opinion. On the other hand; maybe I should try to relax. I wanted to find out what you guys are doing that - to you - doesn't seem like another chore you have to do. Because I already have plenty of chores.
     
  10. Alright then, let me rephrase my answer.

    Work out 5-6 times a week. I do and it takes the energy I normally would've used to commit PMO and puts it somewhere positive. Sometimes I take a walk around my neighborhood once in a while. I'll go to a local park and listen to peaceful music on my phone while I look up into the sky. Catch up on laundry and dishes, or maybe message a bestie and go get lunch together if i'm not busy. Lay in the sun and catch up on my tan. And if you live in Canada like I do, smoke a bowl once in a while.

    Those are all rewarding in the way you're thinking.
     
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