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You eventually need to learn to say no and refuse it without blockers?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by skaterdrew, Jun 28, 2019.

  1. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    I don't use a smart phone and I have a lot of extreme blockers on my computer/internet. A lot of work went in to this. It has been this way since April 2018 where I haven't had a smart phone and have used all these blockers on my computer/internet. I created a system where it is near impossible to by pass the blockers without this long 30 digit symbol password which I keep on a few different devices in a different location a mile a way from where I live. I deliberately created it this way, where I can't access any blockers, uninstall any blockers or wipe my computer ext without this password. I made it a way where there is no way to recover the password,blockers or emails used for the blockers. Basically the only way around these blocks is this long 30 digit symbol password which would be near impossible to remember off by heart. Put it this way I have seen this password probably hundreds of times now, and I am no where near close to remembering it. You would probably need to sit and look at this password constantly for weeks to ever have a chance to remember it. Like I said the password is literally mainly symbols apart from 2 letters and one number. So that is 27 symbols. The brain automatically remembers letters, numbers ext, as we have grown up with letters and numbers constantly. But with symbols I find the brain doesn't automatically remember them anywhere near as easily.

    So yeah these blockers block all porn, social media, social media content sharing, which means I can't see an image or video from a social media site on another website, so like google images for instance, I can't see the images from a social media site on there, and that goes for every other search engine and website, the content sharing from social media sites is completely blocked. The images are just all blanked out if they're from a social media site. Every anonymous search engine is completely blocked, all proxy sites completely blocked, all vp ns completely blocked, safe search permanently switched on on every search engine and can't be turned off. Youtube redistricted mode permanently locked on and can't be turned off. All windows apps completely blocked, so that means I can't go on things like social media through an app, I can't access triggering content through an app, all app downloads and file downloads completely blocked. Recently I have now blocked just every search engine image and website image, except from the sites I choose to allow. So when I go on google search engine images say for instance, bing search engine images, yahoo search engine images, and every other search engine that I can access, all the images on those search engines remain blank. Now it blocks every image on the internet, except from the sites I choose for it to allow. So yeah all of this I can't get around without this long 30 digit symbol password which I keep at a different location on a few different devices a mile away from where I live.

    The thing is from time to time I will go and get this password. Usually the most time I go get this password is when I am hungover from alcohol. A while ago I was getting streaks completely away from porn/artificial sexual stimulation for 30 days and things like that. But more so recently over the last few months I have been going back to porn more regularly, every few weeks ext. So basically what happens is I go get this password unblock everything for a few hours and then block everything again, and then I usually have everything blocked again for a few weeks and then one day I unblock everything again and this cycle continues.

    I have been doing really well getting away from all this stuff overall though. The PIED is about 85% cured and my mental health is better than it has been in years. I believe I went through a lot of withdrawals brain changes on this journey.

    But I honestly think without these blockers I wouldn't of stood a chance getting away from porn/artificial sexual stimulation. I feel like when the blocks come down I just go for it, I feel like I take advantage of everything in that moment, and I just begin searching things.

    I really take my hat off to the guys that can still completely refuse everything without blockers. I feel like I am going to need to be able to do this eventually. We live in a world all this stuff is easily accessible. I can't exactly have a blocking system the way I have forever can I? I feel like I am going to need to learn to say no without the blockers one day.
     
  2. I have had a similar set up for trying to avoid porn in the past. I would always factory reset my phones and Computer. Little did i know, this became another prison for me. It was an OCD need i had that caused me to always reinstall windows, go through the tedious tasks of downloading the Drivers that make my PC work, etc.

    The desire to clean install a device would cause me to stay off porn very briefly before i charged back in again.

    I have never used a blocker but i wanted to speak about this issue i had just to point out that some of the methods we use to avoid porn hinder us rather than help us. (It did for my case)

    Should you keep using a blocker? I really can't say for sure - never tried myself cos they are easy to get around and like you said, it is easier to access nowadays BUT if it helps you avoid porn more often and it does not hinder you or cause needless hassle, and if it's not too expensive for you then by all means keep using the blocker!
     

  3. This is why I ask people why they want a blocker. Blocker does not help you stop but it changes behavior which is not necessarily bad, but unless you understand what you are trying to achieve - there is no point in using one.

    From my perspective it is better if you have longer breaks, the more time you give yourself between sessions the better you recover, and have more time to return to normal operation.
    If drug addicts took drugs got high and then took 2 week break, they would not have much of negative side effects from drug use.
    But that is not what happens, after the high comes the low and drug is used again and again and again.
    If your goal was to simply reduce frequency - them maybe you this does what you intended.

    We all know that when we try something and it does not work, we should make a change and try something even slightly different. It would be absurd to keep doing same thing and expect different result, people define insanity this way.
    So you tried this password safety thing, and it the first time you were on your way to get the password you should have realized it did not work and ether you need to change it or you need to drop it and try something else, but by now it is clear it is not working, so what are you going to do next?
     

  4. so ya i have gone this far without any blockers of any kind. not on my phone . not on my personal laptop it takes some real mind power and self belief that i believe we all have to not go back to the thing that destroys us.
     
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  5. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    Simply put: You can become as much of an expert with your own mind as you are with computers. Why not work on that?
     
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  6. Longtime27

    Longtime27 Fapstronaut

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    I think you're probably right! I've hit a real dilemma in that K9 has been my absolute keeper on my Macbook for sometime. It looks like as of today it's no longer supported, and i'm having all sorts of trouble connecting to any/all websites on my Mac now. It's looking inevitable that i'm going to have to uninstall it :(

    If anyone has any tips on setting up stuff that will be as successful as K9, please PM me!

    Buuuut, ultimately I'm also going to need to learn to overcome without the aid of blockers just like you say @skaterdrew. The addict in me has already thought about what sites I could go visit after I uninstall it!
     
  7. scarecrow1

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    The op has put tons of effort into blocking this and that and having a password a mile walk. This is all good and I’m sure your streaks are down to this.

    Row back on this and you will fail, fail, fail infinity.

    Also I want to add with all the focus on limiting your internet access what are you actually doing to find girls?

    Do you have the same exhaustive list like bars, nightclubs, bookstores, coffee shops, parks, etc

    It’s time for you to start living life!
     

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