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I made it! Next up: PE

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by Rambo98, Jun 15, 2019.

  1. Rambo98

    Rambo98 Fapstronaut

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    Hey,

    I am pretty happy to say i havent watched porn for like 200 days. Also I did an insane streak of 120 days in hard mode. I beat my HOCD too. I still have ups and downs like everybody but I feel like I finally beat it. Also, I am insane good with girls again like I was before all the P.
    This sounds like a success story but I still suffer with an major issue. Porn induced Premature Ejaculation. Because of my addiction, which was a really bad one, I conditioned myself to cum really fast. The problem is I think I cant have sex anymore. Last night I was in bed with a pretty girl, we still had clothes on and only kissed but I still felt myself rushing towards an orgasm. I really needed to stop kissing sometimes to hold it down. This really frustrates me because I know I cant have sex like this.
    I want to rewire the reflex so my brain is conditioned again. My plan is to start watching porn again and start taking control of the reflexes in my brain. I want to condition myself again so I can last how long I want with a pretty girl.
    Does anyone have experiences with this type of conditioning? I really dont know if this is a good idea.

    Thanks,
     
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  2. Jonny1992

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    Nonononono.

    Don’t watch porn again. Go to a doctor or something. But don’t fall into the addiction

    Do you know about the coolidge effect?
     
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  3. Jonny1992

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    If you have sex with the same person, every time you will last longer. Until you really have a medical problem. Maybe the girl would have feeled honored, that she made you cum through kissing.

    Honestly when I read you title, i thought you mean Penis Enlargment.

    Sorry for misunderstanding.
     
  4. Jonny1992

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    I talked with a doctor about my addiction. He never watched Porn or mastrubated. Relly, he never did.

    He told me that porn inducates not real sex.

    So you want to hold as much as you want, isn’t true. Real sex includes an errection that holds from 10-15 minutes and not three hours.

    So. If you don’t watch porn for 200 days, did not have sex for 120 days and not PMO, you are super sensitive know. what do you think how many man will come within a minute with a pretty girl?

    Nearly all man, except myself of course :p
     
  5. Lawolf

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    I suffer from PE like you buddy, from exactly your reasons you wrote.
    Sometimes kissing my wife make me want to cum in my pants.
    Porn WILL NOT help you overcome the issue, porn gave us the PE and it will not cure us from it.
    We need to be over the orgasm, we need to focus on having fun and connection to the person we are with her in the bed... once we really teach our body this method, maybe we can cure from PE.
    PLEASE DONT WATCH PORN AGAIN
     
  6. Rambo98

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    Allright thanks for the advise brothers,
    I understand porn is just a no go. But i really need to kill this weird reflex. Maybe mastrubation with imagination helps?
    I hope someone with the same problem can give me some adviceg
     
  7. The cure for PE is usually masturbation, yeah. But don't forget - once an addict, always an addict. There's a whole stack of testimonials of guys who got as far as you or further only to fall back into the relapse cycle. I'm assuming that there's a relationship in question. How about simple honesty and "training" with her? Tell her that you've got this issue and go for it anyways. Doesn't matter if you fail, it might actually bring you closer and the next time you'll do better.
     
  8. Rambo98

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    I dont know man,
    Its like having a wet dream when I am awake. When I am lying upon her some weird reflex starts to work. I think doing it more often wont solve the reflex. Also, when i am mastrubating I dont need much time to come. Before the addiction I needed more stimulation for the same effects.
     
  9. Klici

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    Most men last much longer the second time around. And the more you practice, the longer that first time will last.
     
  10. Rambo98

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    Thanks all,

    I think I found a possible solution for me following some guy who had the same problem as me. (https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/reb...-ejaculation-de-and-premature-ejaculation-pe/) On YBOP there are more guys with the same problem like him and me. After (of before) a streak of Nofap we suffer from really bad PE. Their advice is to just keep going on Nofap. No mastrubation to help PE because it is the cause of the problem. After thinking about this I realised they are probably right. Im still not cured. I still dont have morningwood and I cant get hard in a natural way. The only way I can do that is with a method I trained while PMOing to cum fast. With pushed thoughts and flexing specific muscles down there I can get hard but I will be finished really fast. I realised I was doing the same thing subciunsious when I was with girls. How? Because I trained it while mastrubating!
    So I am going to start a new streak with no PMO. I am also going to ban all of the 'pushed' sexual thoughts to kill the method I have trained for years. I want to kill the way of sex and mastrubation I trained myself so only the natural way will last. I know the cavemen inside me still knows how to do it and do it in the natural way.
    I allow myself to have sex during this streak, and will tell her what I am planning to do. I think this time my problems will be gone forever.
    I will tell you my results!
     
  11. ultrafabber

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    No, this is so wrong.

    Masturbation is NOT the cure to PE, it makes PE worse over time.

    Yes, masturbating will make you last longer but that's just like rubbing anesthetic on your dick and calling PE cured. It's NOT a solution.

    In the long run it will make you even more sensitive because when you have sex after masturbation your penis/body needs to tune itself to be more sensitive to feel something at all.

    Yes, i agree. PE is a consequence of training to get an erection by flexing the muscles to keep blood inside the penis.

    We literally learn to flex to get an erection, but it's the same flex that happens when we ejaculate.

    I read a very interesting study where they said that PE and ED are on a continuum.

    Basically, we have erection problems (can't get it up) and we subconsciously panic, start flexing the pc/bc muscles and we get that erection by squeezing the blood in and not letting the blood out.

    It's basically like using an erection ring.

    So the underlying cause of PE is actually ED.

    edit: found the study, it's very interesting https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2605.2010.01059.x
     
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  12. Rambo98

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    Allright thanks,

    What is ur advice? Keep going on Nofap and cut out all forced thoughts and stuff?
     
  13. Honestly man, if you haven't ejaculated in 166 days, it's going to happen pretty fast. Why don't you just tell her you've been retaining and probably won't last long the first time?
     
  14. Rambo98

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    Think im gonna do that, what do you guys think of my plan?
     
  15. Keep going on nofap and tell your partner that you've been abstaining? That sounds like a good idea to me, it'll help alleviate the pressure to perform and I can't see her being upset that you've decided to save your energy for a partner rather than wasting it on porn or fantasy. I'd like to think that a girl would be flattered and fascinated by the idea that her boyfriend saves himself for her alone, especially in this era when the majority are obsessed with being as promiscuous as possible in many ways. Once you're comfortable with her and have gotten over the initial excitement (ie finished really quickly the first couple of times,) I think you'll find that you aren't a premature ejaculator at all.
     

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