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The Cuckold Compromise

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by ultrafabber, Jun 5, 2019.

  1. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    That's what porn is for men - a cuckold compromise.

    You're young, you don't have a girlfriend and there's no way for you to have sex in the foreseeable future. You don't even know how sex is like, but you're curios.

    So you start by looking at pictures of women and maybe try to imagine stuff with them, but you want more, you want what's normal, what's natural, to actually have sex with her.

    But you can't, and realistically speaking, those women would not want to have sex with you either anyway, you're too young, too inexperienced, too different to what they like and they're used to.

    So you do the inconceivable compromise and sacrifice your own manhood just so you can "get some".

    You are allowed to watch - to watch her get f#cked by another man, while you masturbate next to them. In a way, you're closer to "sex" than you've ever been in your life, in the other way, you're the farthest away from sex a man can possibly be - another man is inside the woman you want, while you're stroking your dick watching, ejaculating in thin air/ on yourself.

    The ultimate submission act.
     
  2. helpinghand4all

    helpinghand4all Fapstronaut

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    That does motivate to keep one away from porn.
     
  3. marioa

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    Believe it or not, this "cuckoldry concept" has been one of the factors that convinced me to stop. In reality how could you possibly leave your own wife, I'm not gonna say sex but just fluting with another man, you will NEVER bear it. No man on earth would tolerate it unless being cuckold!
     
  4. nitsuj0786

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    This act is what brings us to a beta male, it also is one of the factors in PIED. As you watch porn, your brain cannot tell the difference and thinks that is a female that is ready to mate. The more you watch the more dopamine that goes to your brain, also telling your brain that it is normal to be the one watching. Soon watching is the only thing that turns you on. The thing that the OP didn't say is there are many people that go from watching to cuckold in real life. And these fantasy stories quickly turn to horror stories. There are some men who become what is called live in slaves. The go to work to pay to be a woman's slave, on the promise that maybe one day she just might love him and give him some. Most of these dommes have boyfriends already and the slave never gets anywhere in life. But porn warped their mind to think that they are living a dream. I am talking about giving all your money to someone to be there slave. Sleeping in a dog cage type of stuff. And some are so far deep that they think this is normal and why give it up. A shame really. Give up porn and be who you are supposed to be. Sorry for the rant.
     
  5. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    Yea porn is weird when you think about it. Watching some other guy get laid? No thank you! haha!
     
  6. That sure does make watching porn seem worse then they way most of us started out masturbating. I'm sure we just looked at pictures in magazines and imagined we were doing things to them.
     
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  7. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    I started with lesbian porn. I liked watching the girls kiss and eat each other out
     
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  8. I guess thats not as bad watching a man do it. For sure men like to see 2 women do it.
     
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  9. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    I started with nude mags, then erotic movies.

    When i saw the first real porn i was actually quite disgusted by the guy's erect penis and i wouldn't masturbate when watching - i'd watch then go in the bathroom to masturbate. I instinctively felt it was very weird and wrong to actually masturbate "next" to a guy fking the woman I liked.

    Then over time i got desensitized.
     
  10. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    If you're focused on the dude, you're doing it wrong.
     
  11. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    I never got into porn that involved another guy. Mainly just lesbian porn and femdom
     
  12. Some guys like to cum when the money shot is on screen.
     
  13. The ultimate submission act.[/QUOTE]
    Wow
     
  14. Watching porn definitely classifies as voyeurism, which in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is listed under paraphilia (the experience of intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviors, or individuals.[1][2] Such attraction may be labeled sexual fetishism (Wikipedia)).

    In other words, watching porn technically speaking is a psychiatric disorder. Funny since when you ask most psychiatrists or doctors they'll say it's okay. Truth is fapping it to porn will rob a person of the happy hormones like serotonin in favor of those associated with pleasure like dopamine. This opens the door to addiction and more serious psychiatric symptoms.
     
  15. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    I agree 100%. I made a topic about porn being voyeurism and literally a paraphilia, but people just brush it off. https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...but-pornography-is-normal-and-healthy.198473/

    They tend to think "no, it's not voyeurism because the actors in porn know they're being watched and the point of voyeurism is that they don't know they're being watched".

    But actually, it's all about the observer (or the Voyeur), NOT the ones that are being observed.

    To the voyeur it's important that HE is not seen, the whole buzz for him is that HE is hidden.

    That's why it's irrelevant that the actors know or don't know they're being filmed, they don't know and don't see and can't single out John specifically while he watches them and masturbates to them. They know that people watch them, they don't know that John specifically watches them and they don't see John masturbating to them.

    For people that still think porn is not Voyeuristic Disorder... imagine how many guys would actually accept to masturbate when they are in the same room with the porn "actors" (cause that's the perspective you have in porn) OR how many guys would accept having a full camera on them so that the "actors" get to see him masturbating while they fck. The overwhelming majority of men will say NO because they DO NOT WANT TO BE SEEN.

    Porn is a mix of cuckoldry and voyeuristic disorder.
     
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  16. realmineralsalt

    realmineralsalt Fapstronaut

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    This is interesting. All the time I used to watch porn that mindset was not in me. I was not adding a buzz to it because I was watching others, I used porn to fuel my own fantasies involving myself. However, I can see how this makes sense as well. I was in the beginning phases of normalizing cuckoldry in order to try mmf with my GF, just before quitting porn for good.
     
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  17. Great post. It makes so much sense when looking at it rationally with a clear mind. While depressing when I think about it in terms of my own life, it is excellent motivation to never want to go back.
     
  18. superstorm250

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    Another great post on this trend that's becoming a very serious issue among PMO addicts with more and more of us saying that we've become more interested and aroused by submission, humiliation, or cuckoldry and have even begun fantasizing about doing it in real life. What stood out to me the most in what the OP said was that girls probably won't want to have sex with you because you're too inexperienced. That hit home for me because I'm 26 and have only had sex once back when I was 21, that was also the only time I've ever kissed a girl. I hold the belief that not too many girls will want to date me because of this, since inexperience can be a turn off to a lot of girls (a Match.com user survey actually said that 51% of girls wouldn't date an inexperienced guy) and that its gonna be near impossible to even find anyone willing to date me because of this. That's why I've begun to believe that its too late for me to date or have sex now, most people consider late bloomers to be between 20-24 and that by my age, even most of the late bloomers have found someone by then. Once you get to 25+, people stop thinking that you're just a late bloomer and that it might actually be that something's wrong with you. That's what has given the cuckoldry lifestyle some appeal to me, because I already have PIED and I feel like watching a girl have sex with someone else while masturbating next to the bed will be the closest I will ever come to having sex at this point. And if you don't believe that porn addiction can lead you to a cuckold lifestyle, I encourage you to read this story from Reddit:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/confession...ed_to_watch_my_girlfriend_getting_with_other/
     
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  19. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    Yes, porn (male-female) really is cuckoldry. Anyone saying otherwise is just in denial, like i was and so many still are.

    I was at at the beach the other day with some friends and next to me there was a gorgeous woman with her bf. I would've definitely wanted to have sex with her if she was single but i imagined how it would've been like for them to start having sex next to me and i felt very weirded out. I also imagined how it would've been like for me to start masturbating next to them and it got even weirder.

    But it would've been no different than watching porn with them and masturbating
     
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  20. superstorm250

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    Yeah because I never used to fantasize about this until I discovered that I had an easier time geting aroused by watching other people having sex, due to the constant and long term exposure to porn. I know what you mean about those fantasies, I used to (and occasionally still do) get ones just like that, I've actually had even worse than you probably had. I've also struggled with interracial cuck porn (which is a very big subsection of that genre) so if I saw a hot girl while I was out anywhere, I would fantasize about watching her be on top of a BBC or would also picture a couple having sex next to me if I saw a girl with someone. I do believe that this mindset does weaken and can go away as long as you stay clean. That needs to happen, otherwise I feel like I'm gonna find myself sitting in a hotel room next to the bed and watching a girl that I thought I liked and cared about have sex with someone else, just so I could PMO in real life without a video screen.
     
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