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Gods original design for relationships

For Fapstronauts who are disciples of Christ

  1. “Gods design for marriage was a beautiful, intimate, sacrificial covenant that was made between a male and a female. It was meant to represent the love God has for his people.

    Men are called by God to love their wives with a sacrificial love in the same way that Jesus loved the world and died for her sins. & to not even look at another woman with lust.

    Women are called to RESPECT their husbands and do them good and not harm all the days of their lives. Biblically men and women are both called to fulfill one another sexually and meet each other’s needs.

    This is a great blueprint for a healthy marriage. The man feels honored, supported and respected by his wife making him feel like a hero and able to accomplish anything.

    A woman who feels truly loved and cherished by her husband is able to flourish in anything she does. & it is awesome for her to have a strong man who loves her and can lead her spiritually, pray with her through any struggles making her stronger.

    Sadly, 8/10 men are addicted to porn. They are no longer able to emotionally connect with a woman nor fulfill her emotional and spiritual needs. Expectations go unmet and people grow resentful.

    Women have turned to feminism and man hating. Women have forgotten what it means to bring goodness, femininity, peace and harmony into a mans life. They are disrespecting them at any chance they can, taking advantage of their money, houses etc...

    Both men and women have found ways to “fulfill” their lives without each other.. this is a life with no true intimacy, vulnerability and covenantal love.

    Without God and his blueprint, people become selfish and only look at what a marriage can bring THEM. It was never meant to be about what you can get, but what you can give.

    Two people who genuinely love one another and serve each other’s needs with grace and love mutually are fulfilled mentally, emotionally, spiritually and physically. Life becomes richer with a Love like this.”
     
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  2. HE^MAN

    HE^MAN Distinguished Fapstronaut

    nice soo true
     
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  4. Jal Say

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    Absolutely true.
    I believe in a god but not in the way that there is a man sitting on a throne called god. But thtats another topic
    Woman and Man is Ying and Yang, only complete if together.
     
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  5. Amen! This is truth. I’m certainly nowhere near ready for marriage. May God help us all become the people we were designed to be.
     
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  7. Kraftwerk!1973

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    Absolutely true. Its sad that women choose to see themselves as replaceable economic units rather than the feminine aspect of a sacred whole -namely the union of man and woman.
     
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    I really liked this post! It was so refreshing to read, especially since it is coming from a guy. I will say that I am guilty of "men-hating" sometimes. But after reading this post, I was reminded that hope still exists somewhere. I just need to continue to pray to God and not give up the search!
     
  9. It was refreshing for me to reread as well! hope we can make the world a better place. There are still good men out there, like myself lol. A lot of the men doing nofap are good men, try to find someone who practices nofap!
     
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  10. onceaking

    onceaking Fapstronaut

    This might not go down well but I have at least give a bit of pushback.

     
  11. EXPONENTIALLY

    EXPONENTIALLY Fapstronaut

    A wife must SUBMIT and OBEY and HELP her husband. Because the husband, being the head of the wife, is a type of Christ being the head of the Church. And God created her as an help meet for her husband.

    A man must PROVIDE and PROTECT his wife, and LOVE her as Christ gave Himself for the Church.

    Sexually, the wife's body is her husband's and the husband's body is his wife's. They have to submit to each other's desires.

     
    Last edited: May 23, 2019
  12. The Wrestler

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    But if a wife submits to her husband, in the way you suggest, what does it mean when Jesus says, "no one can serve two masters"? If the wife serves her husband, she is not serving God.
     
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  13. EXPONENTIALLY

    EXPONENTIALLY Fapstronaut

    On the contrary, the husband is a type of Christ and that is what God commands her to do.
     
  14. onceaking

    onceaking Fapstronaut

    You're right. Really there are many flaws with the entire post. If I wanted to I could point out how almost the whole thing is wrong but I don't have the time and energy to do so.
     
  15. EXPONENTIALLY

    EXPONENTIALLY Fapstronaut

    God made the woman for the man to be an help meet for him, however God consent to let a woman single 'virgin' if she chooses to, to abide like Paul in the LORD.
     
  16. EXPONENTIALLY

    EXPONENTIALLY Fapstronaut

    Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. -Ephesians 5
     
  17. I find it interesting that these discussions almost always omit the preface for this entire section of Paul's letter. Prior to v22, which is where most begin quoting, v21 clearly states:

    "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God."

    I believe the instruction regarding submission in the remainder of the passage is meant to be predicated on the understanding that precedes it, namely, that this is a mutual submission to one another before God. Thus, one is not over or above the other (Christ teaches on this in Matthew 20 and Peter reiterates it in 1 Peter 5), but both submit to one another in a manner that echoes their ultimate submission to God. When the husband acts like Christ toward his bride, her submission to him is as easy and intuitive a thing as is ours to Christ. When the husband acts out of selfish interest and expects his wife merely to obey him as the head of their household, the entire operation is out of whack and it does run well.

    It's also helpful, I think, to remember another teaching of Paul's: We are all one in Christ, and distinctions of male and female matter far less than we might think (Galatians 3). And Jesus' over-arching command to us remains unchanged, no matter what our position on how to work out the Ephesians 5 passage in our own marriages might be. We are to love one another. It is learning to love the way God does that is one of our greatest tasks in this life. What better place to practice than within marriage!
     
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  18. EXPONENTIALLY

    EXPONENTIALLY Fapstronaut

    The Word says that God is angry with the wicked everyday, and He Himself takes vangeance upon them, that God HATED Hesau who sold his birthright, that God HATES sin which includes any man made worldly philosophy of today, that God is HOLLY & RIGHTEOUS LOVE.

    God instituted first marriage. God created Eve FOR Adam to be HIS help-meet and He said that "it's not good for the man to be alone, I will make him an help meet for him", and after all the animals Adam named and was never satisfied with, God finally made Eve OUT OF Adam (not directly in the image of God like Adam) who so loved his wife that he chose to die with her in her own iniquity condemning humanity.
    In marriage, the husband is the boss and the wife is the helper. Among others, husband's great duties are to PROVIDE and LOVE his wife, and wife's great duties are HOUSEKEEPING and also yes LOVING her husband (Titus 2:4).

    Men and women AREN'T equal. Men have testosterons and are rational and make good decisions and get things done on time efficiently enough, that's in their biological program. Women have estrogens and are more emotional and tender hearted and nurturing and soft and caring, again in their biological program. Paul also said that he suffers not a woman to usurp the authority of a man. Because also if men and women would be equal, then they would be like sodomites from Sodom and Gomorra which God destroyed with intense fire. The woman is the human with the womb for her male human spouse who carries the precious seed for it. Mainly, there are RESPONSIBILITIES and RIGHTS that apply to the husband and to the wife, SOME are shared like being faithful to one another and loving one another and being subject to the other's sexual apetite (lest Satan tempts them with their incontinency) or need for bonding, respecting one another (the wife reverences her husband who also honours her).

    The job of the husband is to bring that money and food and comfort and love on the table while the wife's job is to keep the house clean and in order and do the related tasks which includes raising kids directly and obviously the husband educates his children by his own will (disciplining them, corporally also when necessary as the Bible commands, to save them from foolish self-destruction).

    That being said, no one is perfect currently down here and challenges would arise here and there in the couple. Let's just not put our standard as 100% perfection right away but focus more on the striving growth aspect to it and let's appreciate one another in that sense. Marriage is a BLESSING from God that honours Him first.
    People CAN remain single if they want, it's NOT a sin, but it can lead to popular sins anyway, so it's better to marry than to burn in lust and misdirected cravings so to speak.



    Read these for bonus: https://www.christianbook.com/creat...ed-updated/debi-pearl/9781616440756/pd/440756

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12049485-created-to-need-a-help-meet
     
  19. The Wrestler

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    You may want to reread a few things! God's design is equality. The Jewish interpretations found in the Midrash even talk about how Adam may have been divided in two (like a cell), so women contain what is needed for Man (mankind) to be complete. God talking about how the husband will rule over his wife occurs after the Fall, which very, very clearly is not part of God's original design. God allows it, God works with it, but it is not his original plan for us in the Garden. (This is something Jesus points to when the pharisees question him about divorce, he points to pre-law pre-fall back in the Garden to show God's design).

    Go back to Genesis and read it! "Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals," and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
    So God created mankind in his own image,
    in the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them."

    First, see how they may rule over the fish and the birds and all. Not one rule over the other rule over them all. They. Together. Equal.

    Next, note how it says "He created them." Something about the plurality of man reflects God, in the way man interacts together (I'm using the "man" your translation might use, which is the collective plural "man," which means humankind). This reflection of God is why man being alone is "not good." You can see it when Jesus prays "that they may be one as We are one." It's there, too, in the way the members of the church interact makes up Christ's body - many parts, one body. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit makes up God. Husband, wife, and God makes a family ("a cord of three strands is not easily broken" - Eclessiates). God, using the plural to refer to himself, says "let us make mankind in our image" and the "us" creates man and woman. So, too, does a husband and wife create little likenesses of their own. To do this a man enters a woman and leaves his seed behind, which grows to new life - amazing! How great is God! The Holy Spirit enters into our lives and grows into new life and we are born again. God is good! The Bible is littered with sexual language when God and Jesus talk about redemption. "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit." (Jn 3:6). Jesus' whole conversation with Nicodemus uses sexual language. Christ has entered into your life and left his seed in you. Though it may be small like a mustard seed, it will grow and become a tree, so that the birds of the air will come and lodge in its branches. And you will give birth to new life in Him.

    If you're going to quote Ephesians 5:23, you may want to keep reading, because the second part of that passage is far too often forgotten. In it, Paul says precisely the mirror of what he said before: not only should wives submit to their husbands, but husbands should also submit to their wives. How else do you think Jesus loved the church? It's a surprisingly egalitarian and feminist viewpoint, especially when you consider 1st century society, or pretty much any society.

    Also, be careful to not use post-Fall occurrences to explain God's ideal - nothing that occurs after the Fall is God's ideal. Rather, look to the Garden pre-Fall or see the way Jesus lives for a view of what God's ideal is. Men and women were created equally, complimentary. Eve was created from Adam's rib ("tsela" - a word often translated as "rib" in Genesis, but for all but one other occurrence of it in the Bible is translated as "side") so she would neither be above nor below, and so that she was made from the same “stuff” - every bit as perfect a creation as man and every bit as patterned after God’s image and likeness. This is affirmed in Adam's recognition of her: "bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh!" which is a really poetic way of saying "hey - she's like me!"

    Women should be treated as the image of God that they are, look at how Jesus treated them!
     
  20. EXPONENTIALLY

    EXPONENTIALLY Fapstronaut

    No, gender equality is from Satan.

    God created Eve for the reason to be an help meet for Adam, read Genesis 2!

    Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. -1 Timothy 2:11-14

    But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. -1 Corinthians 11:3
    So if a woman equals a man, then she would have two heads, which is by definition a monster.

    For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. -1 Corinthians 11:7-9
    The woman is not directly of the image of God.

    Man and woman complete eachother, therefore they can not be equal.

    Jesus said: Neither do I condemn you, GO AND SIN NO MORE.

    Look at any feminist woman and try to convince yourself they're godly. Don't be deceived. Know what your role as a man is, and her role is.

    And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her. -Ecclesiastes 7:26
     
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