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Why men should ignore 90% of redpill/MGTOW/MRA advice

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Old Fogey, May 25, 2019.

  1. Not sure what the Murican situation is but here in EE things are pretty fair I think. The only guys who don't get laid are the ones who don't try. People generally bed/wed their looksmatch. Hot girls dating ugly losers and the opposite situation are not overly rare occurrences. I haven't experienced any anti-men discrimination at work but I work in software which is a sausage fest so perhaps I'm out of the loop.
     
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  2. Freedom_from_PMO

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    TRP is quite big and some people, like Roosh V before his conversion to christianity, were sex obsessed woman haters. I was reading RP stuff in the past and it had bad impact on me, I guess this is big group and you can find both valuable things and crap. I like for example critique of nice guy syndrome.
     
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  3. Freedom_from_PMO

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    From which EE country you are? I am from Poland and I can say there is better than in USA but there are still problems here.
     
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  4. Freedom_from_PMO

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    Well God works in mysterious ways.
     
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  5. I would never had found Him, if I followed OP's advice. Simple as that.

    Advice based on works alone simply doesn't work. It's all about having the correct mental model of the world, a model including an almighty God of course. I worked through various philosophies and took what was useful, to get where I want to be.
     
  6. Whenever people have these discussions the focus is on guys who don't get laid which isn't the point of MGTOW or MRA.

    MGTOW and MRA messages are valuable because the recognize the fact that sexism works both ways and men face discirmination in many areas of society just like women.

    -From my standpoint it's stupid for a man not to be aware of the fact that family courts are run by radical feminist and he would most likely face discrimination if his marriage came to an end. The numbers speak for themselves
    - Why should men ignore the fact that there are clear double standards in regards to sexual assault involving alcohol and ignore the fact that many lawmakers have placed limitations on due process in the wake of #metoo and rape hista
    Whenever people have these discussions the focus is on guys who don't get laid which isn't the point of MGTOW or MRA.

    MGTOW and MRA messages are valuable because the recognize the fact that sexism works both ways and men face discirmination in many areas of society just like women.

    -From my standpoint it's stupid for a man not to be aware of the fact that family courts are run by radical feminist and he would most likely face discrimination if his marriage came to an end. The numbers speak for themselves
    - Why should men ignore the fact that there are clear double standards in regards to sexual assault involving alcohol and ignore the fact that many lawmakers have placed limitations on due process in the wake of #metoo and rape culture histera

    Getting all caught up in women hating and ideology is a negative way to live but encouraging men to be unconcerned with their own well being is just crazy.
     
  7. It's the typical fox and grapes tale. Everyone who doesn't chase unworthy goals must be a fox, who doesn't like grapes.

    Dropping out of society means not involving yourself with it at all. Not just to ignore one single thing you find inconvenient.

    Did it drop out, because I couldn't get laid? Nope. Was the effort (works) to get laid worth it? Nope. I dropped out, because there was no real meaning behind all this hedonistic nihilism, including - but not limited to - the modern swipe right dating market. It's nothing more than a pointless exercise. A way to get your money to corporations.

    It's just another form of porn.
     
  8. EXPONENTIALLY

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    It's a matter of if you stick with God's word in the KJV Bible concerning MARRIAGE and celibacy. If you managed to stay virgin despite your PMO challenge not only for your potential spouse but your own prosperity and for honouring God, then both MGTOW and the modern "free love" advocates are foolish to you. Because they are both fornicators that will reap what they sow. Now if a Christian saved man (virgin or not) goes MGTOW for a while, it's better for him than to fool around with girls in the pacified whoredom of the modern fallen rationalized sinful temporary society. There IS a conspiracy against harmony in society, and the devil has done everything he could to destroy it by attacking families with filthy absurd doctrines and policies and medias. So the winning ticket isn't MGTOW or NOT MGTOW, it's God's GRACE.

    Read "Created to Need a Help-Meet" by Micheal Pearl, and "Created to be His Help-Meet" by Debi Pearl.
     
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  9. I managed to stay virgin,*) despite various opportunities to fornicate. After RP I had to make a deliberate choice of how to deal with the truth and a MGHOW turned out to be the solution. "Own way" also means, that you don't become part of a "movement", where you have to do certain stuff, instead you blaze your own trail and mine was becoming an emeritus.

    *) Though that didn't help. Being part of a certain society means that you can't refuse all their customs, if you want to turn a relationship into marriage at some point. Marriage is not something, you do alone in your closet.
     
  10. EXPONENTIALLY

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    Marriage without God isn't a real marriage, even a man or a woman without God is lost and doomed to perdition. God is the one who instituted marriage, yet He didn't make it mandatory.
     
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  11. Basically, Attraction and dating is just complex social game-theory with too many conditions, and too much subjectivity. The "right guys" doing most things wrong to the worst degree will still be preferred over the "wrong guys" doing most things right to the greatest degree. This is why "game" & dating coaches are shit, and also why what works for some might never work for others.
     
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  12. Ra's Al Ghul

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    MGTOW is God's grace! He allowed a good number of men to open their eyes and see how evil groups have hijacked the institution of marriage to their own agenda and benefit.
     
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  13. For real. Marriage in theory is awesome but in today's current climate I couldn't see myself doing it. With family court bias, no fault divorce, 70 percent of marriges ending in divorce and the state with their hands in everyones pockets, I highly doubt Jehova would cosign on what marriage has devolved into. It's good to see some men are waking up.
     
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