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Success stories..is their a tipping point?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by VanGuy, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. VanGuy

    VanGuy Fapstronaut

    I’ve been reading a lot of posts from people who have had great successs in quitting porn and PMO.
    MY best has only been 22 days but after 10-11 days (which I can now get to semi regularly) I feel great and definitely want that feeling to continue.

    Wanting to be realistic and seeing people relapsing a lot further down the track, I wonder if some people who have had long term successes could say whether they feel in terms of days, months etc... whether their was ever a perceived “tipping point” for them? A point where they knew they had it beaten?
     
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  2. Reborn_

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    I've wondered this as well
     
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  3. Fenix Rising

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    Very good question. I'd say it depends on what you mean by beaten it. If it's just to stop having cravings for porn and PMO and get rid of withdrawal symptoms then yes, many have beaten it. If you mean true recovery by healing ones inner wounds (anxieties/depression/fears/stress etc.) so you remove the "need" for PMO or other addictive substitutes as a stress coping mechanism, then percentages become very, very low. Abstention doesn't equal recovery.

    From my personal observation, I need 3-4 months to reach the point where I have no need to watch porn or MB anymore. That being said I still relapsed after 7 months of "hardmode" last time, not because I wanted to watch P and PMO, but because I didn't deal with my underlying psych problems (anxiety/depression/stress). When I couldn't deal with inner tension anymore, I returned to the stress reliever I knew best, binge PMO.

    This time around I have spotted myself developing new PMO substitute, web browsing addictive behaviour, spending excessive amount of time pointlessly browsing the web (probably to get dopamine fix through the thrill of searching).

    If you want long term success you have to find out the unresolved issue(s) that led you to PMO in the first place and address this pain. Look at PMO just as your "drug of choice", bad stress coping mechanism. There can be no true recovery without that, just abstention. And abstention alone can't last long term because your ego will fatigue over time (willpower to resist) when stress over unresolved issues builds up over time. I hope this makes any sense.
     
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  4. arkad1

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    No, i relapsed (with porn) after 300+ days
    stopped hard mode after 170 (with sex)


    You will always be sn addict, always, and you'll always have to keep your guard up.
     
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  5. VanGuy

    VanGuy Fapstronaut


    Thanks so much for this reply, it’s very very good. I guess what you’re saying about stress relief is what I have been thinking about as far as a long term solution... right now I feel great, because of working bloody hard on myself for the last few years... big lifestyle changes, dietary changes and meditation I feel very balanced now and way less compulsive...but what happens when life throws a real curve ball?... I’m in a way better position to deal with things but there’s no guarantee.

    PMO is instant gratification (go to drug) when you feel shit and I can see the potential for that happening... unless I see no value in porn at all.. a complete value change.

    I definitely had some heavy depression and related issues for the most of my life (teens to late 30’s) but right now I’m feeling way past all of that. My “inner wounds” are 99% resolved and I’m feeling “this time” is more of an attitude change.. it feels very different. The 1% is still a concern
    Time will tell...I don’t take it lightly but just interested to find out whether there’s is a point where it feels like something you used to do?
    Actually that’s how I feel atm... I definitely don’t want to suppress it as that can’t work long term...it just feel like it’s something I don’t like value anymore and that’s making me a little (possibly too) confident

    Thanks for the info I really appreciate it.
     
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  6. randomname3

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    I find there is a tipping point from the 30-40 day mark. I felt really bad for about half over the first 30 days, really wanting to relapse and feeling sad and depressed from withdrawal. But right on about day 35, even though urges were still there, the withdrawal went away and I started feeling normal again. This is consistent with how most experts apparently agree habits take about 30 to 40 days to break.
    That doesn't mean the addiction is defeated yet, but the dependency on it is gone now. I can feel normal an happy again without any PMO! It was also that day that I discovered "Jesus-Mode" where you refuse to even look or think on anything in lust at all. Now that I practice this habit every moment of every day that such images or thoughts arise, it makes everything so much easier.
     
  7. koolpal

    koolpal Fapstronaut

    I feel my tipping point is when I’ve reverted back to the age of innocence.

    1st reboot: 150+ days.
    2nd reboot: 40+ days.

    Since the days vary, I base it on three heuristics:
    1. I don’t easily recognize P or Psubs.
    2. I don’t have any P to hide.
    3. I feel queasy reading about bodily functions, like sex-ed back in 5th grade.
    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/brain-recovery.234965/#post-2081737
     
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  8. Love this thread fellas.
    I think there’s probably multiple tipping points.

    For example I think there’s a “game changer “ point where you have momentum to continue and advancing is not as difficult but I think it’s not enough to say cured.

    I saw an thread discussing where the brain takes 26 weeks to heal your grey matter back to pre-addict state.
     
  9. fellowBrother

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    Hey bro..... here is what i've found after going through A TON of relapses and finding a pattern. At around day 7-8 social anxiety goes away for a day or 2. I then get horny until around day 30, where I feel in control of the horniness and I start to see huge improvements in my social ability(specifically with girls). That lasts like 2 days and I get horny again, and then on day 38-40, I feel like I can talk to anyone(currently in that now). It is ridiculously crazy the change I see in myself. Way more extroverted and fun to be around. Talk to beautiful girls left and right. No pressure to impress anybody. After days 38-40, I get extremely horny, and I usually fail at like day 50-60 because the horniness is just so bad. Im currently on day 41 and I literally think I just hit flatline, but i doubt it will last.
     
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  10. VanGuy

    VanGuy Fapstronaut


    Interesting.. so after a ton of relapses and noticing really positive improvements in your character and self esteem (I guess) in the 38-40, do you feel like you’re getting further along each time now?
    I mean that positive change you notice must be very motivating?
    Seeing as you can predict your behaviour fairly well ... if you don’t get the horniness around the 50-60 or can control it easier this time then you’ve made measurable gains.. is that how you see it...or it’s not as predictable as that?
    Thanks for the information and good luck with your 50-60 this time as well✌️
     
  11. VanGuy

    VanGuy Fapstronaut

    Game changer! That’s what I’m thinking of.. a spot where you just know.. excellent
    Thanks
     
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  12. VanGuy

    VanGuy Fapstronaut

    Wow...300+
    Ok thanks.. that’s a pretty scary thought but it’s well worth knowing these things..
     
  13. Yes, prayer and faith in Christ have been important for me too. What really helped is when moved from simply trying not to look at porn to cleaning up my thoughts. This helps cut off the desire for porn before it starts.

    HD
     
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  14. fellowBrother

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    Hey yeah I just hit flatline hard and I never have before. SO I AM SO EXCITED because that means I'm making great progress. My advice to all you fellow nofappers is keep going! If you want a good life it will come eventually if you try hard enough!

    PS I'm on day 42 right now
     
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