Man, I hope this thread isn't ending. I want MadWoman especially to respond - I don't know what she's going on about. Really I don't.
Maybe it's for the best if the discussion dies off. Sometimes, the healthiest thing you can do is let go of the rope. It's all well and good to have a debate, and I think things have been kept mostly civil thus far, but it can't go on forever. Sometimes it's best to just agree to disagree and walk away.
Why are there smart successful and good looking guys who watch porn who have literally every blessing they need in life? I think its because men are bored with their lives and are not finding satisfaction. I also come from a religious point of view and see how there is spiritual warfare involved as well.
Body language, eye contact, certain cues, etc.. Women can be very good in expressing desire without saying anything. See question above.
Well, a bit provocative but not so stupid. The truth is that the reason lies deep in human nature. I will try to explain to you that it also works in our favor. Thanks to the fact that men had more difficult access to sex than women, only the best men reproduced. And thanks to this, the sum of our forebears is the blood of brave, strong, beautiful and courageous men. And because we have this good blood in us, we can reproduce. But our rite of passage is winning with addiction to pornography and masturbation. What do you think about it?
I thought about this too. Jordan Peterson talks about this. Women are the gatekeepers of what becomes future generations. They also bear the primary consequences from sex so they are naturally choosy. 5 men and a 100 women in a society is biologically is OK. It's probably why being female is the biological default setting and why men produce more X chromosome sperm when they are physically stressed. It's natures way of ensuring more women (which is preferred biologically). This isn't so good for the men though? Not good enough? The chaos of natural selection will weed you out. An abundance of men is not the universe's problem. It adjusts by pushing women to select the best. A shortage of women? Now your society starts to decline. I wonder if this is why stealing women as a resource has been so common in warfare throughout the ages.
These things are so much less direct than what men do, and are often missed by men. This is a big reason why guys feel less desired than women.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ng-study-quantifies-whats-out-of-your-league/ According to a recent online dating study women's desirability peaks at 18 and steadily declines. Men's disireability steadily rises until age 50 where it peaks. On average more education (to a undergraduate level) and wealth add to male desirability. If most men 18 to 50 are competing for the same pool of women ages 18 to 20 BUT that pool of women is interested in wealthy, educated, decent looking middle aged men I can see why younger men feel like they are missing out. They have less to offer and more men they are up against. Maybe the most desired women are least attracted to younger men or men their age. Maybe they aren't expressing desire because they have none. Maybe they are being honest. Maybe they have more options, can be more picky and don't need to express desire to still get what they want. The good choices come to them... Interesting pulls.... "The scientists measured the number of words per initial message and the message response rate. Men wrote more first messages than women did, and women were less likely to respond to a message. Men and women also wrote longer messages to potential dates who were more desirable, the study said." "OkCupid also reported that as a man gets older, he searches for relatively younger and younger women, while his upper acceptable age limit hovers just above his own age." (From a different article)
And? If men want sex, it's up to them to learn to identify these signals better, not women to use others. But even if we assume they would do everything you suggested, and men would really get more & earlier sex as a consequence (or at least a higher feeling of sexual desirability, as you call it), then there would still not be a significant reduction in porn addiction. That's just not how it works. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many men with wifes/girlfriends addicted to porn, as a lot of people in this thread have pointed out already. Also, your "solution" stays absolutely impractical for the reason I mentioned earlier. Therefore, there is no point in arguing about it.
Yes, sure In the past, to prove that a boy can become a man, so-called "rituals of passage" were made. Currently, there are no such "official" difficulties to overcome, so in my opinion I can calmly say that what separates boys from men is stopping watching pornography. We are exactly at the moment in between. We are above those who watch porn without being aware that they are doing something disgusting, but we are not as perfect as those who don't do it at all.
I have been relapsing almost every day for a few years now. I know, it's crazy to think that it's an almost daily thing. I realize that my porn addiction is anxiety and loneliness-driven. I strongly desire to have a girlfriend. To be more social and outgoing. But most days I despair and turn to pornography as my "way out". I also have Internet addiction (social media, YouTube, Netflix)...spend endless hours on the internet. My anxiety and addiction have worsened since I moved to Miami, an extrovertive city with a lot of attractive women. Any advice is much appreciated. Wishing everyone the best of luck.
The idea women don't express sexual interest is bullshit. They do in more subtle ways than guys. Like a lingering touch, a flutter of the eyelashes, a coy look, laughing at your shitty jokes. It's not as direct but as long as you aren't autistic there are cues for you to pick up on.
First of all, these cues are WAY more subtle than what guys do. A flutter of the eyelashes? Really?? "not as direct" - what an understatement. And secondly, these cues are often in response to what guys do. But even the ones that are not in response - a coy look vs. someone coming up to you and saying you're pretty and asking you out - not even in the same ballpark. What a shitty hand guys have been dealt.
Thank God for this one... Of all the shitty hands in all the shitty world you had to shittily deal this one....the world's smallest violin plays for the men who have to decode female behavior...