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Chart of the streaks of over 9k people

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by ultrafabber, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. I plan on journaling daily on NoFap for the rest of my life as I consider my reboot an ongoing process that can never stop. I can never get complacent or it WILL come back into my life again.
     
  2. hantyumi

    hantyumi Fapstronaut

    interesting, thx for sharing
     
  3. ultrafabber

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    I'm happy to know others are interested in the data. Sadly the app creator is not willing to share the raw data (per day, not per interval) and he is a bit secretive on some things.

    I have some new info which is important and which i will edit into op. I initially said that each entry stays in the data set forever but the app creator said it doesnt. Entries are removed from the pool if the app is uninstalled OR if they don't log back in "a couple of days". This is very important information and i will try to ask again for clarification.. so we know if we're talking "days" or "weeks" at least. This explains why there are so few people on longer intervals - they just log back rarely. So probably more are successful and it's not that depressing.

    The fact that inactive users are removed has upsides and downsides, it doesn't inflate success rates but at the cost of inflating failure. But it's good to be pessimistic because as you said, addicts are not good at reliability.

    As for your question about data points, as far as I understood from the explanation given to me by the creator (and it makes sense), when a person finishes day 1 for example and goes to day 2, he is removed from the first bracket and moved to the second. If a person finishes day 7 he is removed from the [6,7] bracket and moved to the [8,9] bracket.
     
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  4. ultrafabber

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    It definitely is a very steep curve but i'd say expected given 3 major causes:

    1. Every person relapsing goes back in the initial pools, and this is probably the biggest offender. So we have all the upper intervals spilling back in the first intervals.
    2. High relapse rate in first and second week which reinforces those initial pools. I've kept doing nofap for years and it has been my experience as well that first 2 weeks are the hardest by far.
    3. Inactivity which will remove many people with steaks higher than 2-3 weeks. They'll just log in less.

    We could get very good data from tracker.nofap.com but i'm not sure why they don't publish the data and keep it to themselves.
     
  5. RamboErecto

    RamboErecto Fapstronaut

    Very interesting and motivational
     
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  6. RamboErecto

    RamboErecto Fapstronaut

    Basically, if you keep a stack of 2 weeks you are part of the only 6% of population that made it that far.

    And after Day 10 you made it farest than 75% of the people!
    it means that 75% of people dont made it trough day 10
     
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  7. getontop

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    Firstly, thank you sincerely for your wonderful piece of work. This is very insightful and has been valuable for me.

    Secondly, what would you say is the core insight from this? What does it say about the process of recovery?

    A possibility: The people who have gotten to 90 spikes up a bit, because these are the people who truly changed their life and put the pieces of the puzzle together in a way which allowed their neurology to heal itself.
     
  8. I’m already a few standard deviations away from the mean! I knew my stats class would help me later in life! :D This is a really cool graphic. Thanks again. It would be interesting to see how many people are on day 0. I think also running this same data a few times over the next couple of months would help normalize the curve.
     
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  9. ultrafabber

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    The core insight would be that it gets much easier after 1st and 2nd week, but most people don't realize this and they mostly give up just before they'd figuratively hit gold. It's why i published this in the first place, because i understand why people tend to give up in the first 2 weeks: it's a real effort/struggle and withdrawals makes the experience worse... which makes people discouraged because they logically assume the next weeks, months etc will be just as hard as the first so they may just give up anyway.

    Thank you, afaik people on day 0 are actually represented by day 1, as day 1 is basically [0,1). Day 2 is [1,2) and so on.

    Yes, my plan is to run the same thing each month to normalize the curve. Hopefully the app creator doesn't modify the intervals. I asked for the raw data but so far he was unwilling to cooperate.
     
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  10. N0thing

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    I disagree strongly about 2 weeks being the hardest. I just think you have different cravings depending on your mood that day. You do get better at controlling them, but there are no day offs no matter how far you go! :)
     

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