If You Fall Even ONCE, You’re FUCKED!

This is the hard truth for many people. You’re spot on. Relapses teach us lessons, but the fact is that they do reset your progress (they did with me) I never made no progress at all whilst relapsing. Only consistent, proper recovery will people see results. You got this man, get back up on that saddle and kick some ass!

 

Damn, hirts to read this but I guess you are true, mostly for peopke like me who fapped for more than a decade. This will remind me to never ever lower my guard. And you, listen, if you did it once, you can do it again. It's tough but it's as rewarding, just have a clear vision of what you want and why you want it. That should fight all the demons

 

I agree with you. I had your same streak in the past and now it is months I am trying again to end the Hell but I am still fighting. Nothing is lost after a relapse but it is difficult, very difficult. The demons as you say are still in front of us. Even after years we must keep the guard higher

 

Very good reminder. I’m at close to five months but my urges lately have come around in a way that makes me take drastic action not to slip. I’m constantly reminded by my mind and body that I’m still at risk.

Hang in there, get back in the fight, and remember we’re all in this together!

 

Is that true also for making love?
I mean, if you had sex, will you face the same shit?

 

@TS

Not to sound like a jerk (no pun intended). But do you really believe that this is how things work? I think you are stating "your perception" as facts here – and you stating this as a fact is not benefitional either to yourself or other members in this community. Also believing things like this are not helpful mentally either imho. Because the mind does not work like you describe at all. If you do a little research on how psychology works - you will find out this is true. The mind doesn't change back to a state you had 230 days ago because you relapsed. You are deluding yourself and other people in a very unhealthy way - making them feel worse about themselves.

If your demons are beaten - and returned as you claim here - then it is far more likely that you did not beat them in the first place. And "beating" your demons is not a good mindset to begin with because you are resisting what is. What you resist persists. You don’t dissolve your demons by not fapping. You beat your demons by facing them - accepting them that they are part of you at this moment - and go right trough them and find the truth about yourself. And that is a hard fact of life a lot of people need to get realistic about.

I hope that this doesn't come across offensive, because I don't mean it like that. But please for your own good try to get rid of this belief a.s.a.p.

 

Big L, I want to thank you for your words earlier in helping me with my symptoms of PMO. I made it to past two weeks with no issues, but I had two wet dreams back to back these past two nights. I've never felt so down before. I succumbed a little to the Chaser effect but didn't relapse. I want to continue and stop this ridiculous habit for good, as it will continue to rob me of what I need to see the truth of the world.

Was wondering if you have any advice for people like me who are going through the wet dream phase again, as its really rocking my esteem to an all time low...

 

Well.. DID any of you have any sex with a girl you enjoy being with when this happened? It feels to me a lot of people here are ignoring that if you stop to PMO, the pressure and tension needs to go somewhere. And it feels like everyone is ignoring WHY we watch porn.
It is a replacement for having regular sex. We get a see a beautiful girl having sex and our brain isnt smart enough to really tell the difference between that and reality.

And if people here just stop PMO, without having any sexual replacement for it that is satisfying for them, how the fk are the people here NOT having any urges to watch porn again, no matter how many days you are in...

We are trying to fight nature here. And while we don't physically need to have sex to survive, the majority still wants and craves it.

I am very happy to hear any counter arguments here, but am really only interested in people who are having really great and fulfilling casual sex or are in a good and healthy sexual relationship and still relapse.

 

Guys what if night fall happens. Should I start counting from the beginning?

 

I can assure you that what I tell you is no bullshit. But if you want to believe otherwise, that is of course your choice. My problem however is that you take others with you in your belief. Keep in mind that your mind is very powerful - and everything you feed it will eventually stay in your system and will being triggered automatically without you have to think of it - as 95 tot 99% of us are automatic patterns and bevaviours. You only strengten the belief by posting it here and see that other people agree with u. But in the end it is only a perception and a belief.

If you say this often enough to yourself, It becomes your reality and I’m not sure that punishing yourself or thinking that you are going to suffer are a very healthy thing to tell yourself. And it is not benefitional for others here either to adopt this belief - even if it is to motivate people. You can also motivate people by looking more positive on the matter.

I’m not saying PMO is good – because I agree it isn’t. But you can also take things to black and white which you certainly do. I would recommend rather to see this that you made great progress, which will stay with u – and that you will only suffer from it if you keep telling yourself that will.

 

So true man.. I made it do day 276 once, but one slip caused so many troubles and problems. That fucking one minute destroyed a lot of progress. Porn isn't the issue, but the dopamine is. I hate the visualization part of my mind. Need to grab myself together again. Day 4 & 5 will be the hardest again. 4 & 5 are the struggle for me

 

And why is not everything ok? And yes you need to face your mistakes, but there is a difference between doing this in a kind way to yourself or in a judgemental way. Like I said if I were u, I rather focus on being proud that u managed to get 230 days below your belt, instead of thinking you deserve or get suffering because u relapsed. All the suffering is not there because of the relapse but it is because what meaning you assign to your relapse

 

Well, I mean, have you ever achieved a streak of this magnitude?

I'm only 18 and i got a streak of 101 days last year. It took me 265 days to get back on my feet so i know what the OP says is factual and grounded information.

Perhaps if you had experience to back you up, we might believe you more.

 

Hey ravefist, thanks for the kind words. Don’t worry so much about wet dreams at first it might seem they hamper your progress but they really don’t! In fact I quite enjoy them now. It is just an excess build up of semen and I think a conditional response of years of pmo’ing why we get them.

Wet dreams won’t affect you later in the reboot, keep moving forward!