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PA's please ....Dealing with urges in the Work Place

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by HonestyMatters, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. HonestyMatters

    HonestyMatters Fapstronaut

    Are there any PA's who really struggle with urges / thoughts to escape (which typically reverts to viewing porn) in the workplace? The workplace is the most difficult for my husband because this is where he's been predominately viewing porn or p-subs for years now. He knows / I know that he shouldn't be at work. So no need to go into that discussion.

    He has moved desks so his screens are now in view of others and has accountability software on his computer. He's getting up going for walks, trying to distract himself and keep busy. It's more the mundane / repetitive tasks on the computer he struggles with urges.

    Are any of you PA's dealing with the same problem, if so, have you any suggestions on how to deal with these urges? Being at work, it's not as simple as being able to do just do something else ...like exercise, meditate etc...
     
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  2. de severn

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    He’s atrophing and getting very uninspired... what does he do for work where he’s apparently enabled to watch P? It sounds like he needs to put some pep in his step and he needs to get promoted or find something that requires more complex problem solving.
     
  3. HonestyMatters

    HonestyMatters Fapstronaut

    He's not enabled as such, not on hardcore porn sites which would be monitored but there's always ways with usb / hard drives that don't track what your watching or p-sub sites that once your in, you can't see what's being searched.

    He is on a computer all day long, I won't go into doing what exactly but he has a lot of responsibility and sometimes the stress is the reason to want to escape and sometimes it's boredom from the more mundane routine tasks that need doing. Often any wasted time was made up with just doing longer hours so he'd stay back at work instead of spending time with me or his children to make up for it, anywhere from 1 - 2 hours a day.
     
  4. NF4L

    NF4L Fapstronaut

    I struggled with this too, while I didn’t necessarily do this at work, I would certainly use a late night maintenance as an opportunity to binge for hours. It sounds like the basics are covered, which is ensuring he isn’t behind closed doors, even changing the environment slightly can help. Perhaps he needs a new computer setup, with less monitors, or a standing desk. Breaking that pattern can usually help with breaking the PMO cycle. Do you actually let him have disks or drives with P on it? If so it may be time to purge those. With the stress it sounds like he is in a position of power, so may be able to control DNS settings to help block the psub sites. Having to work around it may be enough time or inconvenience to have him short circuit the cycle, it only takes a moment to ask oneself “WTF am I doing?”. You may also have to put in boundaries that doesn’t allow working late, as that gives him opportunity to act out when no one is around.
    I think there is more to this, though. So you’ll probably need to sit down and ask why he is using at work. Is it stress, is it accessibility, is it the environment? Unfortunately these are questions he has to answer, and he and you have to keep asking why he is using until you get to the root of problem, the solutions are in there, but he has to be forthcoming with them, and honest with himself. He’ll have to keep trying new things, until what works is found. Hopefully he can brainstorm these solutions with you or his AP.
     
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  5. Can he take a walk or a coffee break when the stress builds? Porn is escape, but maybe he needs a break. We all need breaks and we all take them. Can he take a short walk, go chat up a colleague?

    The reason I'm saying this is that trying to combat porn usage by beating himself over the head with "I should be working I should be focused, etc" isn't going to help. His body is telling him something, he should listen to it, but he should do so in a constructive and positive way. A break is rejuvenating. Porn is draining.

    Peace,
    -Quinn
     
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  6. HonestyMatters

    HonestyMatters Fapstronaut

    Thanks @NF4L , lots of helpful advice in this. Yes he just has the minimum monitors needed (2) and a standing desk. I actually suggested maybe he changes his daily routine / schedule of when he does different tasks so it feels like a change of pattern to some degree. No, I don't let him have disks or drives with P on it. All hard drives I have stored at home now. He just has a usb for work. He is part of a movie swapping arrangement and we have boundaries around this that he must check all movies on IMDB in the parental guidance section if there's any sex or nudity in it before taking anything. If he can't check then he's not to take them. He is to advise me on when and what he's taken and he usually saves them to his usb or laptop which he brings home each evening.

    Since the laptop comes home each day, I was able to install accountability software on it, so alerts are sent if he goes onto to any banned p-sub sites, if he plays any movies from usb / hard drive etc... I think this has definitely helped him as a deterrent. Yes, he has a set time that he aims to be home by now and is supposed to let me know if some unexpected issue has happened that needs to be dealt with before he can leave.

    Yes we have discussed these questions of why he was using at work? From what he has told me it was predominately accessibility because after previous D-Days from years ago, using at home was difficult because everything had accountability software whereas his work computer did not - well not to the degree of seeing when he was accessing drives or watching videos or looking at p-subs anyway. So I think accessibility first, then stress, then boredom at times too. And realistically it probably just became an ingrained habit too. Like you say he will need to keep digging to find those answers and to get to the root of the problem. I really appreciate all your feedback.
     
  7. HonestyMatters

    HonestyMatters Fapstronaut

    Yes @TheMightyQuinn , he is now getting up and taking walks when the urges persist or he's getting too stressed out. Also, going and chatting with other colleagues more too now which I believe is definitely helping because the addiction has tended to make him socially withdrawn and not really socialising or engaging much with other colleagues unless he had too.

    It sounds like he's on the right path at least.....

    It may just take time and patience for the urges / thoughts of escaping to subside while he tries to create new habits and take more constructive / positive breaks. Thanks for all your help.
     
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  8. phuck-porn!

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    just piling on...
    another variation of the above is to sit with the feeling. when tempted, to not try to just do something else, but to just sit with the feeling and feel it. and maybe wonder where it's coming from. to almost try to view it in the 3rd person. this might take some of the angst out of it and let him know it's just a friggin thought - and he can survive that

    just an idea
     
  9. CLAW66

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    I am drawn to this idea. Fleeing and doing can be helpful but not always fruitful. Siting and dealing is a different story. It may be a breakthrough for me. Great job @phuck-porn! for moving forward in a big way.
     
  10. Similar problems here. Some solutions that helpes:

    - website blocker for whatever is triggering (social media, news, generally everything that's distracting). Stay Focused is a good chrome extension

    - turn off ALL notifications on the phone except for calls and keep the phone out of site, preferrably in a desk drawer. Studies show the further away a smartphone is, the better people can concentrate.

    - start talking with co-workers more, invest in those relationships. Ask them for help with work. Delegate. It's good for everyone. Promotes teamwork, learning, synergy, etc. Get everyone involved.

    - take prayer breaks at work. Keep a prayer book and journal close by. Not electronic.

    - call home during the day to stay connected.

    - maybe have a side project that you can check in on at work! I have small side business that I partly run on my lunch hour. Keeps me more motivated during the day to work on everything.

    - I have one day a week that I go to mass at lunch. Leaving the office for that or meditation/reading time can really break up the week in a good way.

    - make a schedule at the beginning of every day: what are you going to get done today (and how awesome will it feel when you're done, what are the benefits (maybe a raise, impress the boss, etc.)

    - get to work early and leave on time. Don't sacrifice family time for work. That's stupid. Kids need A LOT of time with their father. They're already losing a ton to work (historically fathers worked at home, like a farm). Leave work at 5 PM sharp and get home. It's better for everyone.

    - maybe get a new job if your company sucks. People make the difference.
     
  11. HonestyMatters

    HonestyMatters Fapstronaut

    Thanks for your reply @Trynagetbetter

    He's on a computer 8 hours a day as well. All of what you said is pretty much the same for him as I understand it. I have put accountability software on his laptop which is helping him as he knows I can see what he looks at. But it doesn't block anything as such. Can I ask what personal work filter you are using to block streaming, social media, image databases etc.... He was recently promoted which is a good thing but it's also causing a lot of frustration and extra work at the moment because he is required to train up other employees to take over his role whilst still trying to juggle the usual workload and learn his new role. Unfortunately, one employee he'd been training just left because the workload and stress was too much for him. They also recently changed computer systems and have had numerous problems which all adds to his stress levels there. Hopefully it will all improve over the coming months.
     
  12. HonestyMatters

    HonestyMatters Fapstronaut

    These are all great suggestions @darknight thanks so much for sharing. He is reading through everyone's replies so I know it will all help. And hopefully helpful to others who are struggling at work as well. I had a quick look at Stay Focused it sounds like a great extension but need to find out more about it. Some reviews said you couldn't just set it to zero hours or you couldn't block out certain time periods but I will have to look into it more.
     
  13. Maybe adding a slightly different perspective: For me the urge was/is strongest whenever the pressure is becoming overwhelming or I start doubting why I am doing this job. So, it can be whenever an important business transaction does not materialise or hangs in the balance with all eyes seemingly being focused on you, a bonus payment being lower than expected, a working day being highjacked by dreadful admin stuff, questions over perspective/career steps etc.
    We PAs all know that we shouldn’t do it at work. We all know that it could cost us our job, our career etc., yet ...

    Changing work position for others to see what we are doing helps to use this social fear & supervision to fight the urge. At the same time, I am still asking myself what I can do better to deal with the frustration and pressure in the first place.

    Taking walks, catching some sun rays at lunch time (yes, only 15 minutes away from the office has helped me), taking the time for a call with a friend and all of the things above have helped me too.

    Probably most problematic is the relationship with the person who loves us most: our spouse. It is such a thin line to walk for them between helping and supporting us PAs and being the perceived Police controlling us. I have rejected help from my SO several times - although offered in the best intention - simply because I felt it as being too intrusive, too directive. Yeah, I hear you: behaving like a spoilt teenager at my age.

    You seem to have a very good relationship and ongoing discussion with your spouse. Nothing helped me more than the ever-repeated message of unwaivering love and offer to help whenever I needed and wanted it. So, as hard as it may be for you: Welcome your partner home with open arms and be there for him. The practical steps of dealing with his workplace will unfortunately have to be done by him ... with your support whenever asked for.
     
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