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Accidental "Hard Mode"

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Tannhauser, Dec 13, 2018.

  1. Tannhauser

    Tannhauser Fapstronaut

    I realized yesterday that it has been 45 days since the last time I had an O (manual stimulation) and 52 days since our last time having intercourse.

    My wife is 12 weeks pregnant with our third baby. She is really feeling this pregnancy, constantly tired, hungry, sick and worn out feeling. I completely understand (intellectually at least) why she doesn't want anything to do with sex.

    But it is emotionally a bit rough for me too. I feel unloved, neglected, undesired and undesirable. I feel like I annoy her if I ask for the slightest sexual favor (it makes a huge difference to me to just have her caress and fondle me as we cuddle and go to sleep - but she is very unenthusiastic about it, and so I feel bad even asking for that). I've been struggling a bit with depression too recently, and in the past either sex or PMO would have been my go to way of overcoming it. But one is not an option ever again, and the other isn't an option right now - so I feel kind of stuck.

    So yesterday, I was thinking about it and I decided that perhaps I should take the opportunity to do a full 90 days hard mode reboot, since I am half way there already. Perhaps it would help me if I made the reason we aren't having sexual relations about me and my choice rather than about all the insecurities my mind keeps conjuring up (I'm not attractive enough, I'm not fit enough, I'm not good enough, I don't make enough money, I was too emotionally vulnerable when I told her about crying last week, I am not masculine enough, despite everything I do around the house - it's not perfectly clean, etc. etc. etc.)

    Any thoughts? And if I do make the decision to finish out the 45 days, should I tell her that?
     
  2. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Fapstronaut

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    Even though her lack of desire is completely understandable to you, the way you feel is pretty eye opening, isnt it? Many spouses live feeling the way you do for decades because their PA life partner consistently chooses PMO over them.

    Good for you for looking at this as a way to better yourself with a reboot. It seems that now is as good a time as any to finish out the 90 days, and now that you are consciously choosing to follow through, do it with purpose. Serve your wife during this pregnancy that is taking its toll on her. Help her physically. Help her emotionally. Strive to be the husband and father you know you can be. At the same time, work your recovery. If you haven't already, find an accountability partner, join a 12 step program, get a sponsor, start seeing a CSAT, read books, watch recovery videos on youtube...

    You can do this.
     
  3. phuck-porn!

    phuck-porn! Fapstronaut

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    hi @Tannhauser - for starters, i agree with everything @EyesWideOpen said - as i almost always do.

    your situation is really tough. like @EyesWideOpen mentioned, this is how many SOs feel for years - and it's good for us to experience and be able to better empathize. however, it's also how many guys feel - for a variety of reasons (some mine, some hers), I have never in 30 yrs felt my wife was really, really long term into me. it hurts - and does make one a little crazy about being attractive enough, sexy enough, fill-in-the-blank enough. these are for sure insecurities, but IMO they are weak spots for most men. that doesn't make it OK, it just means you're not alone at all. sorta like using lemon juice to find a cut, it's painful, but it does a good job of showing you where you need to grow/heal.

    i personally think it's a good short term plan to abstain as your choice. I'd tell her what you're doing, but not include the how her rejection is hurting you and you want the lack of sex to be your decision. figure out some positive reason - my guess is she feels a bit guilty about not engaging, and will feel some relief from it if you can say it in a way that doesn't make her feel guilty.

    that said there's no magic in 90 days hard mode. perhaps use the time to ponder where the insecurities came from and how to address them. build a new habit like meditation. figure out ways to effectively address the bad feelings or horny feelings in the moment. I might suggest Leo Babauta's short ebook "The One Skill" - easily found online.

    HTH
     
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  4. Romans 6 23

    Romans 6 23 Fapstronaut

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    Congrats and I feel the pain brother! good news is 1st trimester is almost done!

    my wife was veru sick duing the 1st trimester with our daughter and also our daughter on the way. I think it was week when we finally had sex and have onky done it 3 more times in the past 5 weeks since. I know the feeling of feeling rejected and unloved. i know some will say "that's not rejection, she's sick/pregnant etc." but it feels like it.

    Hope it gets better. is this your first kid?
     
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  5. Tannhauser

    Tannhauser Fapstronaut

    Thank you for your kind words my friend. Actually, this is number three for us. I know it does get better, but each pregnancy seems to be more difficult in this regard. And the recovery period after birth is even more difficult, but be honest.

    However, it is worth it. The question is not "why is this so difficult?" but "what I will I do with the challenges in front of me?"
     
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  6. bleong1234

    bleong1234 Fapstronaut

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    Hi @Tannhauser,

    You're situation sounds difficult, but not impossible. I hear a lot of loneliness from your post and feelings of rejection. That's understandable to feel that way and many of us on the forums feel the same. At the same time you've said it yourself that your wife is not feeling well, and is a not a reflection on you. It sounds like you both are having a disconnection at this time and it's creating conflict. I would encourage you both to try to talk to each other about how you are both feeling, hard mode is something to help us addicted to become sober to help us recover but it's not the only thing that will help us recover. For a true recovery making connections with people we care about is the best way for us to heal. It's good to have goals and doing hard mode is a good start, just remember to keep your wife involved.

    For me watching these videos on youtube have helped me a lot, giving me tools on how to communicate with people and getting out of my shell. I use a lot of the concepts from these videos for not only myself but to talk with other people in my life. Good luck to your endeavors and be proud of yourself that you came to this website to talk to others and are self aware of your own feelings.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCklkb0y6OVCGA3ZCEYlUOIg
     
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