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New Here - Death Grip

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by Whatname, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. Whatname

    Whatname Fapstronaut

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    Hey Guys. Thank you for a dynamite support group. I have been reading posts for a few months and thought it was time to post. In my 50s. For 40+ years I have been MOing. The P back then was imagination then magazines then squiggly P you could almost see to pictures online to the real deal available everywhere and at super high speeds.

    After reading here I have found out I don't M like most guys. I have never done it by stroking with death grip or any grip. It was always head intensive. Rub it against my arm, leg a woman's body you name it. I have never O from actual sex. Always stimulation after the act. Don't get me wrong, I have done and continue to do the act but not to O for me. Here's an added fun fact, I lose my erection very quickly once I start the actual act. Actually, I don't really get erect at all. Nope it's not my age. It's always been like this. For years I figured it was physiological. But (you ready for this?) I wake up most days rock hard. Oh yes a total kickstand. This is the way it has always been. Even WAY before I watch any P. Avoiding the top and trying to M just doing it the way I guess 99.265 percent of men do it does little to nothing. Obviously I have ED. Obviously the years of P didn't help. Since my first 0 at 10 or 11, I have never gotten there the way nature intended. I guess you could say I improvised to what worked to get me there.

    For the experts here, is there a way to retrain 40 years of doing it the wrong way? Is there a way to make a part of my little guy sensitive that's never been (shaft)? Why would I be 100 percent or nearly that much just about every single morning? And it lasts until I urinate. I did recently see if I could M the way the rest of you apper to be doing it with the MW and after a minute or so it just went away and there was nothing special about the sensation when I was doing it.

    I have searched the net for a long time now thinking I'm not unique and there must be other men experiencing either the same or nearly the same symptoms. No such luck. Not one case I can find.

    I'm open to thoughts, questions and ideas.

    Thank you very much

    WN
     
  2. Whatname

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    Wow! I guess I am the only man in history to have this issue. At least I have that!

    wn
     
  3. IGY

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    I have just read your description, but I am still not clear what you do. You just say that you rub the head of your penis on you, or on her. That would seem to suggest your glans penis is very sensitive, yet all your other comments indicate that it is desensitised. :confused:
     
  4. Whatname

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    I appreciate you reading it and commenting. It's much move involved than that. I have ED and always have. I'm wondering if it's at all related to P use or how I have always M. And, is the lack of sensitivity in the shaft related at all to PIED and/or Death Grip?

    thank you again
    wn
     
  5. Morning wood is triggered by a different mechanism than erection by sexual arousal - it's like a reflex.
    Probably. Stop using porn. Stop masturbating in any fashion. Wait - let the dick and especially your brain recover. Nobody can say how long - lots of people use 90 days but there is nothing magic about that number. Then try to "rewire" to sex with a woman. Search here or at https://www.yourbrainonporn.com for rewiring.
    I don't know.
    Again, morning wood is like a reflex, it doesn't involve your mind the way sexual arousal does. Be glad you have it, it means it's not a physical problem. (Some here have lost Morning Wood, but it comes back for many after a long enough time with no PMO.)
    It seems quite likely.
    I don't know. Probably. But a long period of no PMO is going to be needed to deal with the PIED in any case, so you'll find out.
     
  6. Manchester

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    Same iss
     
  7. Manchester

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    I have a similar issue. I wake up rock hard. Even get one at night when I think about sex. Whenever my wife and I try it either never gets erect or erect enough to penetrate. I know it’s because of P. I just hope through abstinence of P. And learning to appreciate my wife I can achieve a normal errection.
     
  8. What sex are you thinking about at those times? If it's porn fantasy, this is part of PIED. If it's thinking about actual sex with your partner, then maybe you've got performance anxiety .
     
  9. Whatname

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    No P or M for more than a month now. Yes to O but only with my girl. The way I get there though is not in the act. So, I guess could be considered M.

    "I don't know. Probably. But a long period of no PMO is going to be needed to deal with the PIED in any case, so you'll find out.[/QUOTE]

    Again, no P. No M. I guess the better question would be will a reboot and "rewire" actually make my brain and body go back to what nature sets up? My earliest experiences were not with a partner and physically weren't how most guys seem to do it.

    Thank you for taking a few to answer.

    wn
     
  10. First: I am not an expert. At all.
    Well, maybe. It sounds like you've come a long way, if you no longer have ED, but still can't get orgasm from vaginal intercourse . Some would advise: no orgasms allowed, except the desired sort. That's a hard thing to do, i know. I don't know the answer, because giving yourself blue balls doesn't sound good. But maybe it's the only way.
    It has worked for lots of guys here, according to them. Maybe some damage can't be undone - but i can't think of any other way to attack it.

    I'm going to have to admit that i don't know if I'm fully back to "normal" - being able to climax from vaginal sex. I'm perfectly ok with my partner finishing me off with mouth or hands . That's because i have no relationship - i only use escorts, because I'm 63, not in a relationship, and none on the horizon.

    This is all to say that vaginal intercourse for me always involves a condom. It feels ok, but so far i haven't orgasmed that way. I'll have to admit that i haven't tried it very long. So my expertise is very limited.
     
  11. Whatname

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    No no -- I have ED. 50 percent at best. Have to finish other ways. Have never O in the act. I was actually hoping for a venous leak. It's frustrating that physically it's fine until and unless it's needed. Thank you for commenting. Very helpful. We'll see if it's too late to retrain my subconscious to let things work right.
     
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  12. Sorry to hear things aren't so good. Keep fighting.
     
  13. Manchester

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    Sex with my wife
     
  14. Well, that's interesting. But you're new, if you're just breaking free of PMO, things are very likely to get better, though it's hard to say just when. The fact that you get hard thinking about your wife sounds encouraging.
     
  15. TheTr0jan1

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    Hi @Whatname from what I understand from your first post, the method you have been using to M all your life will definitely have caused the skin on your glans to thicken, thus causing you to have less sensation over time. This might be more pronounced if you are circumcised.

    Also, your inability to O from conventional stimulation and sex is typical of PMO addiction and PMO related sexual conditions.

    The best thing to do would be to try a total reboot and to also look at other techniques to restore sensitivity to your glans and upper shaft skin (like using moisturizers etc.).

    I am no expert but I am definitely seeing some changes since I started my NoFap journey :)
     

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