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Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by 0111zerozero11, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. 0111zerozero11

    0111zerozero11 Fapstronaut

    #onlychildprobs
     
  2. Actually, that is exactly how it works. Time and space are a simulations cretated in your mind relative to you.
     
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  3. Katrina Rose

    Katrina Rose Fapstronaut

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    I brought this exact scenario to the table in the beginning right after Dday. His reaction THEN was that it was totally different, but he wouldn't care. His addict brain said that. Now he sees that I'd essentially be doing the same thing as him PMOing. I wouldn't be touching another person, but I'd still be taking myself away from him to "be with someone else". It's the exact same thing.
     
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  4. 0111zerozero11

    0111zerozero11 Fapstronaut

    I can't believe I never thought of this scenario to counter his excuses. That thought never crossed my mind until now, 6 months later.
    Telling, it was, because I know he'd be just as devastated as I am. That's where our paths separate; one acted on thoughts the other had never imagined. Loyalty & vows
     
  5. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    For me this thought experiment doesn't work. It doesn't help me see her pain. If I found out that my wife had spent the last ten years moonlighting as a cam girl I would be heartbroken for her. I would wonder what went so wrong in her life that she found herself doing that? How had I missed it? Why wasn't I there to help her? How will I help her stop now? Will she be able to recover her self-esteem? Will she ever be able to see the sexual side of her nature as positive again? Where's the money she earnt - has she developped a drug habbit as so many women in the sex industry do? How will I help her get over that? Do I need to be tough with her or gentle? ...

    They are all the things I'd feel if I discovered that she was a secret cam girl. They are very different from the things she feels about my porn use, understandably so.
     
  6. I wonder if our Sos do react
    at least partly as you wrote?
     
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  7. 0111zerozero11

    0111zerozero11 Fapstronaut

    I was very concerned about what was driving him to do this & was as patient as I could be. I was confident it wasn't me that was the driving force. The overwhelming sadness/anger/confusion only started when recovery started slacking. That's when I began to feel as though I wasn't good enough.
     
  8. 0111zerozero11

    0111zerozero11 Fapstronaut

    Slice your brain in two seemed a bit extreme ;)
    Yep, you're right...only those embracing recovery will be able to distinguish the difference.
     
  9. I would first wonder if her telling me would actually help her. Then I would wonder if it was something I was doing that contributed to her pursuing an unhealthy outlet: maybe we're not spending enough time together, maybe i don't give her attention, maybe I pay more attention to other things or other people than her, maybe I do something that really annoys her, maybe i talk only about me and never listen to her, maybe we have financial or parenting issues that both of us are ignoring, maybe she is experiencing something that's beyond me like her psychological health that need healing. Some of these things I can help, some I can't, but none necessarily require an explicit detail and account of all her past and current misdeeds. They are likely more of a symptom than the actual problem. I would be more interested in addressing the underlying problems.
     
  10. 0111zerozero11

    0111zerozero11 Fapstronaut

    Do you think this is codependent?
    I wonder if the underlying problems in females differ from those of males....
    Some are the same; shame, needing validation, etc probably stemming from trauma/abuse/neglect in their younger days. She would be hiding it for a reason, just like a husband with a sex addiction does. The irony here, is men aren't known for their intuition quite like women. I'm inclined to believe a wife could hide this type of thing forever without the husband having a clue anything was amidst in his marriage.
    But, I don't know what it's like to have a spouse that's fully present in the marriage, so forgive me men if you'd be able to tell something was going on.
     
  11. Everyone has a reason for doing something. Everyone is capable of discovering those reasons and addressing them. The problem is letting our emotions get in the way.
     
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  12. 0111zerozero11

    0111zerozero11 Fapstronaut

    Yes, duh. I was put in a box & labeled so ;)
     

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