If not porn, i go to escorts

Chill man. I am a porn addict too.
There is no point in feeling bad about what you do, because if you do then congrats you have exhausted half of your energy. The more think about it, the more you will want it.
So, think about a desire that you always wanted to accomplish but couldn't do it.
Just start working on it from this very moment.

 

I am the same way. I quit hookers 3 months ago and realllly leaned into porn afterwards to help with that. But it’s just as bad for me frankly, the hookers cost me money but at least they were more fulfilling and didn’t fuck with my head that much. I’m lucky I didn’t get an STD though. I just wanted to say this is hard - I have quit a lot of things in my life - I have become very good at resisting temptation but this is really a battle. So don’t give up on yourself. (I’m telling myself this as well) Hopefully we can find a way to feel accountable to ourselves on this site.

 

This is such a huge gray area but I can say that if you are able to put this behind you and move on then all the better. Given how the recent rise of drug resistant STDs and a huge dent to your bank account should deter you from seeing escorts going forward. On the positive note you are having real sex as opposed to using porn. I don’t condone nor support if anyone wants to do this but there are both positives and negatives but the negatives out weighing everything.

 

Yup, that's the awesome power of women and erotica! Now I am starting to see myself standing outside and observing that Great Whirlpool without falling into it anymore! It is a great freedom and relief...finally!

 

Its just a matter of focus if your focus all that energy on something productive think about what you could do?

 

I used to like hookers and escorts. It's a fun phase.. I kinda grew out of it.
Hookers are fun. That's just.. it is what it is. Masterbating to porn is fucked lol.youre sitting around looking at images playing with yourself. It's just lame.
The touch of a woman is healthier than masterbating to porn. Even if you are paying . For you married guys that might not be true lol

 

Exactly same as me. Couple years ago I visited maybe 20-30 of them (very cheap for 40pounds/40 minutes) but then once the novelty and new feeling that I can fuck many women was gone, I just was too lazy to even go there and didnt see much difference between escort(when sex was just mechanical) and masturbation.

Then I discovered club and bar hookups where compared to escorts and masturbation, the hookup have always (otherwise it wont happen) lot of passion, sexual tension, teasing & fun and I never went back at least to escorts as it seems very boring now.

 

JustinX and Waylare,

That is the best outcome when it comes to escorts. See and experience until you get that out of your system once that is reached you don’t want it anymore. Once you get that satisfaction where you see that once you have seen them all. Reaching this point really helps in making NoFap a real success where you don’t count the days anymore. This is speaking from personal experience. You get more satisfaction in seeing the money in your bank account than having that open envelope on the TV counter in the hotel suite.

 

I don't agree. I think that this sound familiar from porn's novelty is not a really real fulfilment act and I don't think, this can satisfies another people . And I don't suggest to go any prostitute or changing a habit with another bad one especially behavioral addictions or any kind of substances like shopping too much, compulsive playing video games, alcohol, week etc. This can't help for your reboot process.

If I want to tell something about replacement activies, I highly recommend you stay with healthy benefits. I think if a rebooter try to find out a woman who care himself, this process will continue easier for him. Find a person who you really care about. Find for love , fight for love.

 

What do you think is really holding you back from quitting?

What do you fear?

What do you think is going to happen if you stop porn and escorts?

 

I had very positive experiences with some working girls. They were friendly , fun, affectionate and to be completely blunt worth every dollar.
If anyone is comparing masterbating to the feeling of a woman's arms wrapped around you, the smell of her perfume, the way her hair curls when it's humid... This person doesn't know a fucking thing about life.

 

Yes.

But then you have to ask yourself, why quit?

If paying for sex is something inherently positive, why should anyone quit?

Why not just spend the rest of our lives visiting prostitutes?

 

I love golf but I don't play golf 24-7. I love the gym but same... I go for an hour 3-5 times a week I don't live there. I love Starbucks but same thing.. guess what...i don't spend my life there.

Your point made no sense. Because something's enjoyable doesn't mean I need to devote every minute of my time to it.
I used to love a rare steak guess what now it does nothing for me.
Tastes and moods change..no need to obsess over that.

 

I never said anything about devoting every minute of life to prostitutes.

My question is: do you see anything wrong at all with visiting prostitutes? Or do you see it as a completely harmless activity?

 

For those who partake in this would probably understand and relate to what I am about to say as I am speaking from my own experiences. As for those who have never took the leap and constantly throwing the typical moral idealistic arguments that this is a “bad” activity my point of view would probably change nothing.

Seeing an escort and to why many continue to do so is because escorts are like that perfect girlfriend and amazing relationship that we all dream about. Have you been on an amazing date where there is amazing chemistry and the conversation flows freely without any awkward quiet pauses? Many just only see the sexual aspect of it all. There is much more underneath. Escorts/courtesans are very social people who have a very high degree of emotional intelligence. They are able to adapt to many situations with stride and able to hold a conversation and keep things naturally flowing. If your life feels empty or lacking in color an escort can fill that void very quickly where you come out invigorated and inspired.

Prostitution comes in two forms. Forced and unforced. The unforced version where the girl does it in her own accord I have no issues with since she choose to do this on her own freewill. It is the forced version that resembles slavery I am not fond of at all.

If you do this in moderation like a few times a year and you can walk away there is not much of an issue. Now if this becomes a problem that negatively affect your life then that would be a serious issue. Like everything else. Then the problem is not escorts but it is you.

Escorts for me actually killed my porn problem and extended my NoFap by an extra year. Once you lived the fantasy you don’t want to become the spectator any more. Saved me from relapsing because the end of my flatline was very abrupt and it came back with an immediate vengeance. If I took the usual moral high ground and tried to waited out I wouldn’t be able to last for two years on this NoFap journey.

 

I urge you to focus on improving you're diet. Research keto and fasting those two have helped my in ways that are hard to imagine. I was in a similar boat to you so I understand. Please try improving your diet.

 

That depends. If you have had average success with no charge women and you're doing it to kind of supplement that then that's good.
If you are terrible with women and you're doing it because you can't find any free pussy then that's a bit of an issue.
At that point you're not developing your own qualities enough.
However it's still healthier than masterbating. It at least provides you with a real physical experience.

 

Ah that was the word I was looking for. Supplement. That is what all this is and NOT a replacement for actual relationships. Like many have stated escorts are people too. They are playing a role. Remember this. For instance an escort goes by the name Krystin and her actual name is Jessica. You would always want to see Krystin and once you have that chance to see Jessica you would be disappointed because all those disappointing aspects of modern dating would kick in. If you see Krystin long enough Jessica is going to appear. Funny thing is that if you take an objective and healthy approach where you try to learn about women you will come out better in how to talk to one so you can hopefully have better and more dating experiences. This is because you crossed that hump of hesitation and fear of approaching and talking to women. You realize hey even the beautiful ones are the same!

 

I’ve been thinking about this as well and considering it but I feel that one would still feel empty inside as the relationship with the person has no intimacy. Plus I’d rather want to hang out with someone who is my best friend