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21 monthly orgasms for a healthy prostate?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, May 8, 2018.

  1. I mentioned to someone that I was abstaining from ejaculation. He said his doctor told him that you need to have 21 orgasms per month for a healthy prostate.
    You think there is any truth in this!
    I am worried as I am now doing the opposite!
     
  2. SanSolo

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    This premise is based, as far as I know, on only one study that was done I think in Australia some years ago. They did find that men who ejaculated more frequently were less likely to get prostate cancer. But one study is by no means final word definitive proof. If in all the time since that study there have been no others that either substantiate or refute it, then it is still an open question.

    Some other things you might want to bear in mind. If this is true, would we not be seeing celibate Tibetan monks dropping dead of prostate cancer? Last time I looked the Dalai Lama seemed pretty healthy. My personal favorite Frank Zappa died from prostate cancer. And he admittedly did a lot of ejaculating. It was way more likely the free radicals in all of those burnt weenie sandwiches that did him in.

    If this ejaculating/prostate cancer theory had any real, well designed, and repeatable research behind it, government health authorities would all be out there advising us all to get busy! Just like they do with not smoking, drinking less, ect.
     
  3. Its bullshit. Celibacy is the natural state of the body. Are you the organs of the body break down if it doesnt regularly throw its vitamins and minerals and whatnot away? And if you throw them away too often you get tired as fuck and the death process really shows up?
     
  4. MLMVSS

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    Ejaculations can clear toxins, but so can reabsorption. So, I don’t believe the claim that we need to have constant orgasms in order to not get prostrate cancer.

    But, let’s be real. We’re around many, many things that can lead to cancer, but those can also benefit us. For example, That big, yellow ball in the sky? That can cause cancer. Doesn’t mean that big, yellow ball should be removed, else we all die from hypothermia and hunger. Oxygen can also lead to cancer (why else do we have antioxidants?), but that doesn’t mean we should stop breathing it in, for obvious reasons.

    That’s how I feel about PMO. Even if not doing it causes cancer (which is, in no way, backed by studies as of now), the benefits I get from out outweigh the costs, personally.
     
  5. I thought it was once a week. 21 in 30 days nah I doubt it highly.

    With the once a week thing I'm not sure if it's only for people with prostititis but it may be for all men to ejaculate once a week. It's edging and not ejaculating that is the worst thing you can do.

    I want to do NoFap for as long as can but I must admit it is at the back of my mind. Maybe if I don't get sex I will pay for it once a month just for the sake of ejaculating.

    I haven't heard of any reports of people doing NoFap and getting prostititis or prostate problems but it's still in the baby years.
     
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  6. Yanis

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    Worldwide there are many men living in celibacy. Most of them are very healthy.

    Great. That's my opinion too.

    Who told you this? And what is "edging" exactly? Massaging the nipples and getting a hard one is edging? Seems to be a very individual experience. Edging to me is coming close to ejaculation. If this is not the case, I call it "pre edging". As far as I know the English language, edge means coming close to something. What I call "Pre edging" is some subtle stimulation which makes me often feel wonderful and helps me not to masturbate for long time. I just have to take care that it will not become a habit I am addicted to.
     
  7. Guy on the bodybuilding misc NoFap thread said his girlfriend was Christian and she would not have sex with him, she would only jack him off but not finish him off and he ended up getting prostititis from it. He went to the doctor told him he was doing NoFap and his doctor told him that is not a good idea for him and that he would benefit from a regular ejaculation so he left the thread and started fapping again.

    What is edging? When you fap to the point of O but don't O, usually people do this over and over and then O but my point was edging and not Oing is bad but I can't tell you the medical reason it's something like a build up and is not good.
     
  8. Interesting thoughts, I guess my friend was trying to make himself feel better about jerKing so often.

    It seems weird that when men are pre-programmed with a much higher sex drive than women that the option for supposed longevity and self preservation is not to physically answer these urges!
     
  9. I feel like our bodies are made to take care of themsleves, for the most part, aside from the fact that we need water and food and stuff to live. But if your body actually NEEDED to ejaculate 21 times a month, then you would be having 21 wet dreams a month. Maybe not exactly, but you get what I mean. If any human male body was likely to get some horrible disease from not ejaculating that often, then wet dreams would be wayyy more commonplace and frequent for everyone.
     
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  10. After lots of research on the matter I have to conclude the prostate is sensitive not to mere ejaculation but any sexual stress. One sexual thought and instantly sexual activity related hormones are released in the bloodstream. Stress can literally kill you. Anger actually boils your blood. Agitation while sitting down literally fatigues you like sprinting. The brain does not know if the mind is dreaming or awake and reacts the same. Know that dopamine rush of just thinking of p0rn or something like that ? Yh its actual hormones being released in you. Were not talking about invisible atoms whose exisntence is a complex subject to understand, but real tangible stuff in your liquid blood that you could see if you cut up and let it out on the table.

    All of that WITH JUST A THOUGHT.

    My opinion is you either practice celibacy for ever or you do not, in that case you have a healthy and regulated sexual lifestyle. Celibacy in body is impossible without TRUE celibacy practice - that is celibacy in mind And emotions/intent.

    Lots of orgasm and no exercise of thise muscles weakens them, and depletion of minerals also weakens the prostste further.
    After years of this the fapnostraut finds himself on the moon seeing the centre of the galaxy thining it would be nice to get there. He holds himself tight for 100 days until he gets there physically but he has been salivating day and night to taste the cheese the moon is made out of. He didnt eat anything for 100 days while travelling in empty space but his system has been prducing cheese digesting enzymes for 100 days at full speed. He feels bored and anxious without his cheese. He should have been purified of the cheese craving in 100 but halt! He realises the key to space travel was his mind all along, not his space rocket.

    In some part in other words, so to say, a weakened prostate (horse) is forced to participate in the stress of every sexual thought (horse race) instead of being spared of them at the expense of the weaking of the overall system...and the retardation of the soul that housss it ...
    Like a baloon, being filled unequally, already washed hard with wear, now forced heavuly on one spot. While the baloon is filling up with air (might) that stressed spot is about to give out and the whole ballon can ALAKU AKHBAAR!!!
    This is why you hear of christian monks getting psychosis after like a decade of forced celibacy.
    [In fact if you do your homework things like psychosis from celibacy are veeeery rare, waaay under 1%. Until you cause heavy damage to your body you will notice a long time before and have to force yourself to go on further. Just like braking a bone requires you to go through much pain and apply much force.]
     
  11. Teuthtobetold1

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    Hey, how about woman? Does being celibate or sexually active or masturbation bring any side effects on women? I have read several articles regarding female masturbation and orgasm and sex but they cant seem to agree on the effects of masturbation, sex and orgasm on woman body and how will it affect their reproductive organ on the long term. So i guess this is a blank for now in scientific reign. However i have read in traditional chinese medicine book that man and woman body have the energy called "jing" which is stored inside their kidneys, lets just call that energy sexual energy. Whenever someone think of some sexual thoughts, a portion of the sexual energy will be used and wasted regardless of gender. And if man or woman has wasted lots of their sexual energy faster than body can replenish that can cause problems in their bodies.
     
  12. Don't know about prostate for women...do their bodies have a prostate?...I understand the prostate like the gear clutch in car :). Or brake pads. The heat burns it up. It made of a lot of zinc. Looks lile a baloon thinner than paper, like spider web. I always understood zinc to be like the raw metal in a starship.

    As for wearing down on the female body. Here is the denominational explanation of Brahmacharya from yogic science. From food the body makes everything. However blood cells do not compare to semen, for example. The digestion process of food has 7 stages. Food -> chyle, blood, flesh, muscle, bone, marrow and finally semen. In this stage semen is in a subtle state in all the cells of the body. In this state semen is Not sexual fluid but rather, like bone marrow, like blood, it supports the body, in this case the cells; and in greater power than the 6 results of digestion. Arhyuhveda says 80 drops of blood is equivalent to 1 drop of semen. Like emotions/feelings influence the cells so it does with semen. Sex thoughts and the emotios that may be allowed to arise afterwards make the semen become gross and be released in the blood stream, at least males. That semen takes 3-4 to be reabsorbed if not eliminated by the male, but in that such semen cannot boost the cells of the body. In the case of women, it is their monthly periods which haunts them. Vedanta says women are 8 times more passionate amd have 4 times the self control of men. This is clealry seen in how the sexual drive of women functions, always wanting more more more....like the ocean, never ending. So i assume uncontrolled sexual thoughtd and emotiojs wreak 8 times the havoc in women and are twice as likely to express in women when they do not check their minds/emotios but have it 4 times easier to remain in check.

    As for TCM, this is martial arts world that mainstream science will never credit and even kill anyone who gets close to discovering these emergies with modern technology, such as William Reich...jing is not semem as wrongly commonly found on the internet. It, like chi, is non physical substance, electricity if you will. Or rather emergy in its most raw form. Infrared light of the body is chi. Emanated body heat is yang chi. Kinetic energy is a mixture of jing and chi. Nerve electrical signals are chi, which is what marathoj runners run super short on when their bodies start dancing midrace, and why little nofap can make ya run for longer, if youre already super depleted from heavy masturbation, for males. If you want to know a little secret of martial arts, the period for women canbe stopped. As yang chi accumulates in the body this will have to be stopped because of its heat. Just practice true brahmacharya, celibacy not only in mere thought but mind and emotions too for a couple years. Celibacy in body alone will leak tremenduously, more than half of what is gathered energetically. And make the physical substance, semen, decay, in general. This is why Jesus said, unchaste look at a women is an act commited. One thought and the bodys hormones have replied as if you actually. Thats why you can sometimes feel the, to quote others on this forum, "dopamine rush" just knowing you going to open the p0rn tab and relapse. Its hormones, processes and fluids. Heart beats faster. For real, this same stuff can kill you, and not inly in the state of fear but daily life stress too. Or heartbreaking. This same shit csn make lads commit suicide! Because their girlfirends left them. Both body and brain send impulses to each other, not just one way ! This is why meditation is a must for any sane man in this world. Scientists exposed mice to 2 hours a day of silence. In less than a week those mice had increased hippothamus, an area in the brain asskciated with memory, learning, emotional intensity and clarity. Essetially becoming hunters ! Warriors ! Geniuses !. Same results can be achieved by being 100% mindfull and attentively concentrated in everythijg you do, all day long. Or prison immates; combined with nofap. Thats how they escape 5 star prisons, lol.
     
  13. Teuthtobetold1

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    I reckon women is the same as well in terms of their body will also react to their sexual thought and they will get aroused as well when there are triggers. Both men and women body contain "jing" so this "jing" is converted as well during sex and while having sexual thoughts
     
  14. Skywaves thanks for such an insight - very interesting. I must start yoga again!
     
  15. Yoga is like buddhism. Enlightement is called self or god realisation in yoga. Gautamas 2 teachers were yogis. He is also one...
    Yoga is so much more than hatha yoga. True yoga is like meditation. Instead of jhanas you have the various kinds of samadhi, with or without seed and higher.

    Truthbetold1 jing isnt converted during sex. Drop what youve read on google or books. None know what jing is, let alone have experience with it.
     
  16. Sounds like I have a lot to learn! I have only done a few classes but I am keen to get back to even spend an hour on myself away from the craziness!
     
  17. Sure. I would add isometrics at home as well, or just forget hatha yoga classes and stick to gym power.
     
  18. MarinoBigFan1984

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    That’s a lot of orgasms in a month
     

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