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Breaking up because of flatlining

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by fasolami, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. fasolami

    fasolami New Fapstronaut

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    Hey everyone, I'm quite new to NoFap but I wanted to share my story and also see if anyone else has experienced this too. I've shared some similar information on my introduction post too.

    My partner and I broke up very recently. He started abstaining from P -- he decided to not do the full PMO as he didn't feel that his issue was around MO. I was supportive of this and have dealt with alcoholism myself (I'm 2 years 2 months sober) so I can strongly relate to the addiction. He's now gone nearly 2 months P free but we recently broke up due to how much his flatlining was effecting our relationship. His libido just up and disappeared one day, he started having a hard time with sleeping and began experiencing anxiety again. We tried having sex a couple of weeks ago but in his own words "My body doesn't want to do what my head and heart want to".

    The break up was amicable and mutual but the flatlining was the major point as to why to went our separate ways. He feels like his libido and sex drive not going to change any time soon and doesn't want to come to resent me because I need the physical closeness. Likewise, I know would be miserable and come to resent him if I stayed. We still want to stay close friends, but it's undoubtedly sad that we've had to break up as the severe change in his libido and our mismatched drives at the moment had started to greatly effect our relationship. I can only hope that when he comes out of flatlining, things could possibly work out for us as a relationship again but I know that there's no exact science for how long that could be.

    While I was always really supportive of him and his reboot, I didn't truly understand how difficult recovery can be and/or how much recovery can effect relationships until I came across NoFap and went through the breakup with him. I'm still supportive of him while he recovers and proud of him for doing it, but I do worry about how much the flatline is going to effect him...

    I'm not become bitter about the ending of that relationship, but I was wondering how many people have broken up with their partners because of flatlining in their recovery? What was your experience? Has anyone had relationships end because of similar reasons and then recover?
     
  2. Slamex

    Slamex Fapstronaut

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    Not broken up but after my wife had our second child her libido went right out the window and is yet to come back. In her words sex has become painful and we are limited to once every few months. This led to an increase in looking at P for me which only made it worse at it got to the stage where when he had sex I couldnt finish whilst having sex with her. A really horrible spiral which led me to this website.
    But we're still together and I think you've got to find the person you love you have to have that patience and understanding even though I KNOW how necessary sex is in a relationship. It's just how you feel about the person and whether you think a relationship can last with limited sex.
    But then again that's why we come to nofap I guess.
     
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  3. fasolami

    fasolami New Fapstronaut

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    I agree with you here. The connection you have with your partner is hugely important to recovery as well as how you communicate.

    I guess the approach that my ex and I have taken is a bit different since we're not married but do love each other, and have said to each other that we're the love of each other's lives. He recognises how necessary sex is in a relationship for me and doesn't think that his flatline will change anytime soon or that I can last with limited sex, so I guess you could say that our break up is more a preventative measure for things becoming more sour between us. On top of the flatline, I had some trust issues that need working on so I'm viewing it all positively and seeing our friendship as more of a chance to re-establish and rebuild that.
     
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  4. Slamex

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    That's fair enough, the last thing you'd want to do is end the relationship badly with him rather then on good terms. Who knows it could come back and end up working out for you.
     
  5. Peace Seeker

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    Don't let it end like this. Meet up with him, and develop closeness. Everybody can manage when things work perfectly, but managing when things go awry is when you learn for real.

    There are ways to circumvent this problem -
    Step 1: Maintain a routine of activities which includes exercising (heavy weight exercises) and chatting w/o digital intervention (I mean there should be no involvement of any audio-visual digital medium)
    Step 2: Do activities together and talk with each other about random shit (news, GK would be great)
    -Make it a point to have a day of the week to yourselves (no distractions, nothing)
    Step 3: Start with FANOS
    Step 4: Practice Karezza Sex

    Practice it for 90 days (as a strict regimen) and see how it goes. Since you are friends I feel that it is doable.

    Sex should not be the primary ingredient of a long term relationship. The secret is to be comfortable with each other. Also there are ways of satisfying a woman's sexual needs without indulging in sex.
     
  6. Numb

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    If this is what works for the two of you then that is great and I wish you both good luck. My BF and I have been together for 15 years. We've dealt with a flatline and it sucks, but as long as he is working on his PA and stays PM free I will stay and support him. I agree that sex is important and he is willing to do things for me if he can't get it up. Though most of the time I'd rather wait for him to be ready. I have found that sex is less important than I use to think, I do have a fairly high drive though. I think my almost frantic need for sex with him was due to his PMO. Now that he is working on himself and we are really opening up and communicating I find that while I still want it often and won't turn him down, I don't have that consuming need for sex.
     
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  7. fasolami

    fasolami New Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for your suggestions! I definitely want to develop the friendship so that we can remain close, but as we are fresh out of the break up I'm giving him/myself some space. But I will definitely be suggesting that him and I do activities together as friends and once things are more settled, I'm sure that we'll talk more about random shit again.

    As for practising FANOS and Karezza Sex, I wouldn't want to push the friendship in that direction unless he wants to be in a relationship with me again -- I also wouldn't want to pressure him into anything such as adopting a strict regime unless he was also willing.

    I definitely think all of your steps are doable, but it's going to take some time to build up to them quite simply because of how fresh the breakup is. I guess that once we are comfortable being friends, that's when it'll become more obvious to him how comfortable we are around each other.

    Fingers crossed!
     
  8. Peace Seeker

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    Just remember that he won't know unless you say. I suggest you introduce him to these things casually.
     
  9. Just me

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    I feel like this affects me as well. We never abstained from sex after finding out-so we have never had a flatlining period. But I find, even though I feel my libido is higher than average for a woman, that it skyrockets whenever he has a relapse. Maybe its because I need reassurance? I dont know, but its not as fun as normal. I feel desperate, anxious, and so sexual its incredibly annoying ans depressing. I feel what I imagine feeling manic is like.
     
  10. Jennica

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    This is something familiar that I went throughout after my hubby’s infidelity it’s known as hysterical bonding. It through me for loop so I learned quite a bit about it during that time. You’ll find more about in affair recovery. I can definitely see it with PA as well, I’m surprised I have read about with the PA betrayal trauma but mostly with Affair betrayal Trauma.

    This link kinda sums it up.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hysterical-bonding-after-breakup-2017-11
     
  11. Just me

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    Part of that makes sense to me, most of it does not apply, kind of scary though.
     
  12. Jennica

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    I figured a lot wouldn’t apply (but this article seemed to have a lot of good points about it) but when you read between the lines at least for me. The breakup part is morning the relationship you thought you had and everything that goes with that those feelings.
    It’s not necessarily an physical affair but for me it was actually physically cheating and an on line porn affair. I went through quite an intense hysterical bonding for about a year, I’m sure for some SO’s it may not be the case and if so it may “lower level”.
    I just wanted point out those feelings you describe have a name, it’s something that’s quite surprisingly normal part of betrayal trauma. I know it threw me for loop, I couldn’t figure out why I was behaving and feeling that way, I wasn’t comfortable with it, I was angry and hurt and I didn’t want him to think I was rewarding him for his behavior at the same time.
    I hope I’m making sense, still trying to wake up.
     
  13. Just me

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    It does help knowing that I'm not having a completely bizarre reaction. We are almost to a year and I can feel it tapering off....the insane libido. I'm becoming more typical of myself despite health issues.

    Its interesting, I had the same thought, I didn't want to reward the bad behavior..... I didn't really control myself in that regard either. I told him something to the effect that i had decided to deal with those feelings the same way I wanted him to deal with intense desires when he had them. Within our relationship not with a screen. Or really even trying to suppress them. I think that makes sense. I really hope he does the next time he gets compelled.
     

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