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Can't dismiss the memories and thoughts of mindblowing sexual experiences

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by takethecharge, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. takethecharge

    takethecharge Fapstronaut

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    I'm in a quite unusual situation. I've met this girl earlier this year and it turned out that we really click with each other and so do our sexual fetishes. We had some mindblowing times and we could never get enough of it. There is so much left to be explored and tried out too.

    Now we can't see each other for several months and it's still 2 months before I move into her city. Then we plan on moving in together, which expect the obvious progression of our relationship also means loads and loads of mindblowing sex life.


    So as we keep in touch we obviously flirt and exchange highly sexual ideas and look back at memories. Even without this I just can't help but keep on fantasizing about past and future sex life with her.


    In the same time I'm quitting porn for good and also want to do at least 30 day, if not 60 day NoFap. But this situation makes the latter extremely challenging. I can't seem to find any reasonable solution here. Quitting flirtatious chat would destroy the maintenance of intimacy and make us feel more distant. It's also good to keep the anticipation and excitement going on.

    Least what I could do is somehow quit fantasizing all together other than those few percent of the times we're chatting.

    At the same time I have many projects to pull off and I'm trying to be as focused as possible. If I can put in 10h of focused work every day that's perfect.

    During my current attempts with NoFap it's been getting tougher and tougher over a period of only few days. I don't have to imagine what dozen and more days would be like because I've already been in this exact same kind of situation before. I managed to do 30 days NoFap but at times it was an extreme struggle because of the all aforementioned circumstances. On the other hand it was also fulfilling and I certainly had more energy back then.

    But if I'm about to go through such struggles again then maybe it's better to just go ahead and fap to imagination at least every 7 days. I used to have an ED but I'm quite sure I don't have it now. Despite that, going 60 days NoFap would give me superpowers, rewire my brain, strengthen my mind control and self-discipline, make me more focused, clear, sharp and euphoric about life in general. So I want to pursue it.

    Any ideas?

    Edit: On top of that, I'm deeply intrigued and aroused by tease and denial/chastity fetish. So even the thought of going days and days without ejaculating arouses me. Once I've gone some days without O, I'm more and more aroused because of that build up and how little it takes to get me rock hard and on edge.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2014
  2. APCIA

    APCIA Fapstronaut

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    I can really relate to you!
    I'm into these fetishes as well :)

    But you have to release some old beliefs.
    I was sure that there is always a buildup, and every day at which I don't fap I'm building up. But it's not exactly like that. After doing nofap for a certain time you BREAK A BARRIER. This could take any number of days. It's not the same as rebooting, but after you break that barrier than your urge to PMO reduces. You still want to, and ofcourse you still want normal sex. But suddenly it's not a huge issue and doesn't take all your strength to do. Also after breaking the barrier you can fall back again.

    Right now, at day 57 it's much easier for me than day 10. Way way easier. I can relate to the fetish of denial and abstinence. But in a way it's not like your mind tries to portray it. It's not like you go nofap and from now on it's only a build up till the next orgasm. Thats a junkie's way of looking at things. Denying the next fix so when it comes it will be stronger. You need to let go of that, just in your belief system let go of that. Afterwards the feelings will follow.
     
  3. Cesar

    Cesar Fapstronaut

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    I've noticed that after starting nofap, I developed a taste for those fetishes also. I did not have them before nofap and just after a relapse is that I noticed that I had them.

    I imagine they are a way for the brain to still try to get some sexual outlet, since I'm not PMOing, and eventually, they probably will go away.

    Did any of you started with those fetishes after nofap or did you have them previously?
     
  4. takethecharge

    takethecharge Fapstronaut

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    @APCIA

    That is very true, thank you for that.

    @Cesar

    I was always into femdom fetish, and definitely developed focus on tease and denial/chastity after my first experiences with NoFap. I actually want to do some tease/denial with a partner as an experiment. I won't be trying out the chastity though.

    What has recently happened is I binged and then choked on a big 'Red Pill' after that. I've read a shitload of Red Pill/manosphere articles last night and I've been overwhelmed by the insight it provides. I feel like this is gonna be a breakthrough when it comes to embracing one's sexual drive and starting to see success in NoFap and No Porn that sticks.
     
  5. Weiland

    Weiland Fapstronaut

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    Statistics show that couples who enter into a relationship based on sexual excitement tend to suffer the most problems, additionally having a high divorce rate if they ever proceed to marriage. I have been with some women that really blew my mind after a fashion, but even with the developed relationship I had with some of them, sex outside its place had a consistent tendency to damage and destroy that relationship.

    The fact that your relationship is reliant on sexual excitement to keep the "intimacy" alive tells me that - and perhaps much to your surprise - that there isn't much intimacy or relationship there at all. Sex is designed as icing on the cake - that is, to supplement and improve a relationship that's already well-founded. This is primarily the reason why it's supposed to be locked away for marriage.

    Right now, you're at an impasse. You are starting to discover what sexual purity is all about, but you may not necessarily know what it is important or how to pursue it, or what benefit it might be to you. You have rightly ascertained that pornography is a hollow facsimile of the real thing and by design will eviscerate any man it has sunken its claws into. However, I challenge you to go beyond the surface, beyond the idea that merely eliminating pornography, rather than the root cause of impurity, will improve your life and your relationships.

    My relevant history is simple: I've given my heart and my body to women that were not my wife, while searching for a wife to give that heart to. After several relationships (all of which I spent a little bit of my emotional and spiritual capital on), I finally met my beloved princess, who I'm happily marrying in less than a month. Still, the pain from having given myself away in so many ways haunts me, as I know I won't be able to give her a whole heart, but glued-together pieces.

    I have been an pornography addict since I was 14. Every woman that I shared this detail with effectively shunned and ostracized me - except for Morgan. This addiction has damaged my self-worth, impacted my relationships, and most especially destroyed my purity. I found myself wholly unable to approach or view women purely or honorably. Even in relationships where I was dedicated, I was also scared, broken, and dependent, and I played a significant role in driving the women in my life away. Subconsciously, they didn't want that, and I can't blame them.

    I've told you all of that to tell you this: a relationship based on and reliant to sexual intimacy is no relationship at all. If you're trying to actively end your pornography addiction but can't seem to avoid temptation because your relationship cannot survive time and distance apart without sexuality attached to it, then you've got a dilemma. You know the details better than anyone, but I submit that your problem is, essentially, that you've put the cart before the horse. You do not have a relationship that can survive distance without life support. I know the difference because I've been in several - and the one I'm in now is a fluid, enjoyable, peaceful experience and has been for almost a whole year. Totally different from all the other broken messes I've had over the years, including a three-year long-distance stint.

    So, assuming that you're with me to this point and haven't dismissed my statements with something to the effect of, "You just don't understand!", then what do you do about this? If you want your relationship with this woman to be something real and reliable, then talk to her about your addiction and talk to her especially about the need to have a basis on something other than sex. If she's totally turned off by the proposition or effectively demands/requires additional sexual activity, you will be able to, in effect, see the writing on the wall and that sexually-driven relationship is all you'll ever have.

    And if that occurs and it completely breaks your heart, then I believe there's hope for you yet.

    If you can start to develop something real - some cake instead of some frosting - then you'll discover later on that not only is the deepened friendship, developed trust, and real love worth it, but the sex becomes something more than just sex: it becomes a soul-binding experience.

    Moreover, I would strongly consider marriage with this girl. Not necessarily pursue it, but consider it. If she's not someone you would see as marriage potential - rest-of-your-life stuff - then I submit that you have your answers and she's not relationship material. Take that as you will.

    Hope you read this far.
     
  6. takethecharge

    takethecharge Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for your insight but we're on completely different planet on this one. I'm in my early 20's and have just swallowed 'The Red Pill'. I'm also not going to consider marriage until my late 30's or later.
    Don't get offended but reading about 'beloved princess' and your tracker in signature are concerning me whether I should be listening to your advice, however you have my respect as a man with far more experiences. May I ask how old you are?

    What's happened in this relationship is that yes, it started off as being based on sexual excitement (and still largely is), but gradually picked up some emotional attachments as well, more so as for the girl. We've been friends before lovers too. I'm not going to seek relationship advice here though.

    I'm on a 'Red Pill' high right now and it's been a very intense detox since only last 24 hours. I can't say too much but I can see how the philosophy behind it largely impacts pretty much all aspects of male's life, especially his sexuality. I can also say that it's a great relief to see the things now for what they are (as in some camera filter was removed) and after understanding RP principles, fully taking charge of my sexuality (along with thoughts), immersing myself in self-improvement, getting rid of beta-male traits and acquiring those of an alpha-male, are the most natural and necessary things to do from now on.

    I'm no longer some sort of constantly horny creature that is always anticipating the next fix. In fact I'm not anticipating it at all.
     
  7. Cesar

    Cesar Fapstronaut

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    @takethecharge

    Thank you for the Red Pill hint. In the past, I had contact with some PUA material, but I ended up dismissing it for being too manipulative. As I strive to be as honest as I can, I could not really resonate with those previous materials.

    Now, reading through the Red Pill thing, I can see this is something different. I still do not agree 100% with everything I encoutered, but I can see some very interesting point being addressed and, as far as I could understand, it focuses in self improvement, which I veemently subscribe. I'm going to apply some of the advice I saw about it.

    I also was into femdom before, but I can feel it diminished after some time into NoFap.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014

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