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Questions for SOs

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Marsbar, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. Marsbar

    Marsbar Fapstronaut

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    I have a question for the SO's here, I have posted this elsewhere, but please could I have your opinion of this? How much do I tell?

    ""Well I have been thinking more and more about this and a friend showed me Step 9 of the 12 steps which says inter alia, "While not procrastinating out of fear or pride, we must consider how our words and the way we speak them will affect others' welfare and self-esteem". It also says,"..changes in our attitude and actions are needed to prepare the way for a spoken apology - and sometimes even takes it's place".
    I got up to some really nasty shit during my addiction and while telling her broadly about my PMO problem, I have no doubt that her questions are going to dig deeper, and I'm wondering how to draw the line between what she wants to know, and what she really needs to know. I cannot lie to her so maybe I should just tell her nothing and rather prove myself in actions?""
     
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  2. Strugglesaurus

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    Lying by omission is what you've just described. If she doesn't know the extent of what you've done, she is blissfully ignorant. Keeping things from your SO to save yourself judgment, and possible hurt on their side, is taking away their freedom of choice. By keeping the truth from her, you're denying her right to choose to stay with you or leave. You can't have a relationship with secrets, and it is far better to tell the whole truth and possibly have her leave you. You want her to love you, right? Accept you? You don't get people to accept and love you through hiding parts of yourself. They end up loving an illusion of you, a facade. In the end, it's manipulative.

    I'm an addict dating an addict and we've learned this over the past 2 years fighting our addictions. Tell the whole truth. It will come out eventually because it will eat at you. Lying affects a relationship even if you can't see it. It can distance you from your partner emotionally. She is going to ask you questions and you would do right to answer them honestly and completely.

    That is my very strong opinion on this matter, formed through the secrets I've kept as well as the lies of my SO. Good luck.
     
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  3. Marsbar

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    Hey Struggle, you are of course absolutely correct on all counts, and I know this to be true. The thing is that, like most of us here I suppose, I felt like absolute shit after PMO'ing and kept looking for new highs to make me feel better. I was diagnosed with bipolar 10 years back and used PMO as an excuse to fight the depression. It's only now I realise that PMO was probably the cause of my depression. I lost all sense of self respect and crawled into holes that make me now cringe with shame. How my wife stuck with me through that time God only knows as I turned into a selfish monster and did not treat her like she deserved to be treated because I didn't think I was worthy of her. Now that I have seen the light I WANT to tell her everything, but she does not deserve what I have done. Yes, I'm scared she'll leave me, but I will accept and understand that, but mostly I'm scared of disappointing her. I now realise that I have had intimacy issues my whole life and discovered very early in life that MO was the one thing that made me feel good and stopped me thinking about what I really wanted, which was intimacy! I developed a shield / persona that the outside world saw, and although I believe my wife will love the real me even more, I have actually deceived her from day one.. Can she forgive me? Would I if the roles were reversed? I don't know. I think I have seriously fucked up. But the only way now is forward.

    You can read my first post here Forgotten what a normal life is
     
  4. Strugglesaurus

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    The only way now is forward. You're right. There are seemingly good reasons behind keeping things from others, or else no one would lie! Though those reasons are usually rooted in fear. You're already trying to see it from her point of view, so ask yourself, would you want to know? Would you want to know what your wife has done in secret for years? You would probably be reluctant to hear it, but in the end we have to face what we're afraid of. Otherwise this addiction would consume us. I'm sure your wife is stronger than you think. I would start by giving her a general overview of what you've done over the years and let her decide how much she wants to know (at that moment) after that by asking you questions.

    Congrats on your first 30 days, by the way!
     
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  5. Marsbar

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    Thanks Struggle, I really appreciate what you've said, as it was almost what I wanted to hear. I know now that I have serious trust issues with women in general, probably to do with childhood experiences.. a self absorbed (also a depressive) mother (who did love me, I know) being one of them (may she rest in peace). The romantic (or the real person?) in me wants to trust my feelings and experiences with the woman I love, but it is fear that stops me. Fear of rejection. In fact a massive fear of rejection. People generally like me, but I'm always thinking that it's not the real me they like.. In fact up until now I didn't even know who the real me was! Since quitting PMO I can feel the real me coming out though. I'll handle this somehow. It's part of the process isn't it?
     
  6. Strugglesaurus

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    You're very welcome! The unknown is scary, but it's also freeing. Giving up PMO is taking a trip into the scary unknown, but I will tell you that everyone who has made this trip has discovered a better life on the other side. You're well on your way, and I think you and your wife will be much happier because of this. For now, trust those feelings and experiences you've had with your wife. Fear is a tricky thing to deal with. It tends to tell us its own lies to keep us "safe". Going outside of your comfort zone is the only way you'll grow as a person, however, and is also the only way you will find the real you beneath all of the dirt and grime. It's definitely part of the process, and no doubt you will learn a lot about yourself, your wife, and your life in general during.

    I would recommend therapy (perhaps with a male therapist) to sift through your trust issues with women and any other issues which will inevitably arise as you stop numbing out your feelings with PMO. I wish you luck on your journey!
     
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  7. Marsbar

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    Que sera, sera! And boldly I go forth :)

    Great advice, thanks again..
     
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  8. ILoathePwife

    ILoathePwife Fapstronaut

    There was an issue with approving new member requests to the group but that has been fixed now. FYI
     
  9. PornTSD

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    Thanks for that info. How will those of us making requests to join be notified when we are approved?
     
  10. Mrs-S

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    Please accept my request to join. I've recently discovered my SO is an addict. We are recently married but we've been together for a long time. He once told me he "isn't into that stuff anymore", but now I've found out the habit returned not long before the wedding. Our intimacy is gone and our sex life is non existent. I'm very hurt and I feel very alone in this.
     
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  11. ILoathePwife

    ILoathePwife Fapstronaut

    We'd be glad to have all SOs. Unfortunately a while ago there was some kind of update that made it so we admins cannot invite members. So you need to click on groups, then SOS group and follow the steps to join.

    Or click here.
    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?groups/sos-significant-others-support.18/

    For a while that wasn't working either, but that's been fixed now. The group now also has it's own private forums. It looks just like the main forums at nofap but unless you are a member you can't see it. It says public but we've carefully tested it and no one can see the forums within our group unless they are a group member.

    Let me know if you have trouble joining.
     
  12. Icouldprobablyhelp

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    don't tell her just keep it to yourself and never do it again.. if you love her she wouldn't want to kno honestly show her with your actions
     
  13. ILoathePwife

    ILoathePwife Fapstronaut

    Dude. 1. This question was asked and answered in 2016. 2. This thread is about a support group for significant others of porn addicts. You're a porn addict. You really think this is the place for you to answer questions? Especially if your answer is, lie to your partner. Seriously, go deal with your addiction and leave the SOs alone. (Ie, telling another porn addict, in a thread for SOs, to lie by omission to his partner is not that.)
     
  14. Icouldprobablyhelp

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    1. I didn't say lie smh I said don't tell them... I didn't say keep doing it after either
    if I made a mess at home but cleaned it up and you didn't notice when you got there do I have to tell you?..
    with your super moral compass I guess you would say yes but me thinking I don't care to upset you or raise blood pressures over a solved problem would say no!...
    now if I lost your cat then I would tell you but some things you don't need to go into detail about you kno? it only applies to certain things so...
     
  15. That is in no way a valid comparison to not telling your SO about your P addiction. If you made a mess and cleaned it up, the issue no longer exists. If you are a P addict, whether you do it again or not, the damage is still there, and it is still affecting her and the relationship. Not telling her is lying by omission...which is still lying so, yes, you did say that.

    Are you saying that having a "super moral compass" and doing what's right is a bad thing? Not wanting to tell your SO the truth about your P addiction is more about avoiding responsibility and less about not wanting to upset her. As you said yourself, the cleaned-up mess is a solved problem, but the damage to a relationship from P addiction isn't fixed just because he didn't tell her, and believing that lying in a relationship is acceptable clearly suggests there's more relationship work to be done than just dealing with the addiction.

    If you lost her cat, you wouldn't have much choice but to tell her...unless you avoid responsibility for that as well by omission of truth and let her think someone else is responsible.

    And, who said anything about going into detail? You can be honest with or without details, and if your moral compass isn't completely broken, you understand that.
     
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