Journal of a wife with husband PMO, prostitutes and affairs. And two young children.

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by Square79, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. Square79

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    Back from the retreat I found our that my husband was searching all my private data, looking at my downloads, mail attachments, photos,... He was like absolutely insane. He did not tell me.
    Kicked him out of our house. He went to a hotel. The one close to his favorite whore house.
    Said he was not there. Just chose the hotel because of the good standard and rates.

    Everything was really bad.

    Then we could catch up a bit,.. We went to therapy together, he gave me the money he spent on prostitutes. So it was not from our account.

    Now he is in therapy again.

    I am looking for a Trauma therapist. I still can't sleep at night, it is so killing me and it hurts me so so much.
     
  2. I'm glad you're looking for a therapist for yourself. I think it's really important to find one who specializes in betrayal trauma. I'm sorry you're still struggling so much. This process takes a very long time, unfortunately, but I think you're doing the right things.

    I think sometimes the PA does this because they're desperately looking for even the tiniest thing they can find to show that you've done something wrong or untrustworthy, too, so it relieves a small amount of guilt for what they've done. My husband has done this as well. It's really frustrating because, instead of just owning their own shit, it's another way for them to try to dump it on you. And, with my husband, he actually gets upset when he finds nothing to throw back at me. (He doesn't say it, but I know because I've played this stupid game too long.)

    I hope you were able to enjoy your retreat as much as possible. I'm sorry for what you came home to, though. I know you're still hurting, and I'm sorry. I wish it could get better faster. Even though it may not seem this way sometimes, you'll make it through this chaos. Believe in yourself.
     
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  3. Square79

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    Some weeks have passed.

    Tomorrow I have a phone councelling with a therapist from Dr weiss.

    Let's see...

    I am still so sad and angry and want to leave him. Just leave all this shot behind me. I am so sad and heartbroken.
     
  4. I do hope you can find the peace and happiness you deserve. Your situation is desperate, I know. Your pain cannot be easily negated.
     
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    Some more weeks have passed.
    My husband is not seeing his therapists regularly, is not active in any kind of group, doesn't read materials, still in justification and minimalizing mode about what he's done to me.

    I feel my love for him vanishing.
    Actually, I have to realize, I don't love him any more.

    So sad. But true. This killed my love for him. I feel numb.

    Good thing: I am absolutely there for my children again, with full love and all my heart and patience. There were times when I was unable to care for them because of complete psychological breakdown / Trauma.

    In two weeks I will go to a healing / heartbreak Seminar / let's see if this brings any more insight.

    I read Paula Hall's book for partners in the meantime that was great. Spot on.

    So that's my current update.
     
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    You still have all of these things! They are part of you, attempt to connect with them again. It seems you have so much love and commitment to give and I truly hope one day, beyond all this misery - you will again harness this love and express all your goodness to someone xx
     
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  7. Square79

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    Thanks, very touching ❤️

    What do you think? Try again with the same guy? Severely porn and prostitutes addicted?
    Or someone new?
     
  8. Salt & Light

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    Well honestly, when I read your story initially, I'm sorry but I knew I would not be able to stay with 'this' man. And further reading has confirmed this to me.
    I would have to leave, be single and eventually find someone else. You have so much to give, I would want to give my devotion to someone who reciprocated my love, truly.
    I'm not suggesting your husband doesn't love you but does he make you happy, do you feel loved, fulfilled by the relationship? And will this always be your life? Personally I couldn't live with the suspicion alone, let alone the betrayal.

    Each person in the relationship is supposed to give 100% and I would want to find someone who would give me that, because that's what I deserve - and so do you!
    So...
    IMHO, you're such a courageous woman, what you've been through is astonishing - firstly, I don't have children so I'm sure this is an added concern, but perhaps also a motivation?

    Questions I would ask myself; I'm not sure how much self help work you've done, but...
    Are you at your best?
    Does the relationship support you, nurture you and bring out the best in you?
    Could you be happier, a single woman or with someone else?
    Could you be happier than you are now, for yourself and your children?

    For me personally, I have set my boundaries - there is a line and that is human contact, communication or otherwise. What's your line? And has your husband crossed it?
    Sorry for all the questions! But I'm attempting a brain storm :)

    Something else to consider?
    I'm considering this because my Mother felt the same way when I was a child, wanting to leave but was afraid to make the jump so "made her marriage work".
    She's not much happier now, 20 years later - she's just 20 years older! I can safely say the marital disruption during my childhood had a knock on effect, not a huge amount - but I can recognize it.
    Also, have you considered why you are staying? Are these healthy reasons?

    Here, I've attempted to give an idea of how I would think, questions I would ask myself in regard to what I deserve from a relationship.
    Please remember you deserve love, support and someone who can fully and faithfully reciprocate this.
    I'm aware this is an addiction, and I hope in time your husband can find solace in life and recover for himself, as well as you and your children.

    I'm sorry if this isn't what you were expecting, but I want to be honest with you. As I said, we all have different boundaries.

    Take care of yourself and let me know your thoughts? ;) x
     
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  9. Square79

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    Thank you dir your post that made me thinking about it a lot..

    In the meanwhile I was in the UK to take part in a course for partners of sex addicts.

    It was absolutely amazing.

    https://thelaurelcentre.co.uk/courses/4-day-partner-intensive-support-group

    With amazing women with absolutely heartbreaking stories...

    So touching.
    And it helped me a lot!
    Paula halls book for partners was a great Ressource for me also, and soo good. A different approach and i felt so seen!
    https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Addictio...paula+hall&dpPl=1&dpID=51UaVr2ZPqL&ref=plSrch

    I can definitely recommend all part es of SA to read this!
     
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    Hi.

    Quick update..

    In the meantime a lot happened.
    We are in individual and couple therapy. Have weekly check ins, that went very bad as sometimes he didn't wanna do it, I always gave to chase him, furthermore he had lots and lots of PMO relapses. No prostitutes though, as he doesn't have access to money anymore.

    But anyway a lot of relapses, and ignoring all the boundaries that I have set up.
    Not respecting 24h rule for example and so on.

    We had a Therapeutic Disclosure last week. It was tremendously painful and I am utterly sad and wounded and my heart is completely broken.

    He admitted more lies, admitted unprotected sex with prostitutes in high risk HIV counties, he admitted lying again and again and again and also even after i found out, still lying.

    I can't cope any more. I am completely broken and I have no resource at all.
    I can hardly find strength for my two young children. I can't sleep. I can't breathe. It is a pure nightmare and I am so so so sad that my husband, the one I love, decided to offer me a life like this.

    Fucking hundreds of prostitutes, and leaving me alone with the children, not present as a father. Not present as a husband, exploiting me, abusing me.

    I asked him to move out, therapeutic separation. And recommend him to take an AirBnB. And what he done is booking a 5 star hotel in walking distance to his favorite whorehouse and the hotel he took prostitutes to.

    He just doesn't get it. I think he is still an active addict and his brain is insane.

    I am so so sad.
     
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  11. TryingHard2Change

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    I am so, so sorry. Addiction is a horrible beast -- addicts are 100% responsible for their choices -- and all the hurt people left in their wake...it's just so painful.

    Please find support..NoFap is wonderful -- but in person support groups or online groups like BTR (btr.org) are also extremely helpful...made specifically for the hurt, suffering SO's. My wife has greatly benefited from BTR for about a year now.

    Again, I am so sorry...my heart breaks for what you and so many SO's have to suffer through. Don't give up .. Reach out / build a community of safe, supportive people.
     
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    Ya I’m so sorry you’re going through this. I wish I had words of wisdom, but alas, I’m in a similar situation.
    Please take care of you and your children. You guys deserve the best.
     
  13. It is so sad, but if he cannot change, you have to put your happiness first. No one deserves to be treated like you have been treated. Sometimes change is thrust upon us.
     
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  14. Square79

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    I wrote an impact statement and will read it next week to him in our couples session.

    Let's see...
    He is still watching porn, but said he is stopping before orgasming.

    He is one month without orgasm now. Since the therapeutic disclosure.

    Watched porn two days ago though.
     
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  15. TryingHard2Change

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    Sorry to hear that.
     
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