No Proselytizing

I agree with you, but I don't think that's what they mean by proselytizing. And even if that rule didn't exist, those types of posts are still just rude and judgmental and could be removed for other reasons anyway.

Yeah, I think that's part of the issue with the rule. It's hard to have rules that are so subjective. Like for example, the thing I got reported for would definitely not have been reported, by your standard or by mine, but I still got mildly in trouble for it.

Yeah, I definitely agree stuff like that should be deleted. I guess I just don't understand why the things I said that one time were considered on par and also deleted when it was totally not the same thing. That's the problem with subjective rules. I think there needs to be more clarity as to what that means.

Yes, I agree. I try to do that as best as I can, unless what I'm saying is actually a proven fact. Even if I strongly believe it, it's better received and doesn't come across as so judgmental if you phrase it that way.

I agree, which is another reason why I find the rule discriminatory when it seems to only apply to religion, even when other people are being way more abrasive and rude and judgmental about non-religious stuff.

I agree, but that's what I got in trouble for, and it was labeled proselytizing. To be fair, I didn't really contest it much at the time, because I was too fed up with the guy who reported me already being a huge jerk to me and I didn't want to deal with any more drama at the moment.

Also agreed.

 

Well, that's not at all the case. Sorry you think that, but I'm not venting, I'm just trying to have a civil discussion.

Yes, they are absolutely free to do that, obviously. And I'm free to say that I think it seems discriminatory and unfair at times.

In my experience, that's not really true. I've seen both probably equal amount of times. Actually maybe more so in the vegan sphere.

Sure, I get that. And I would be perfectly fine with someone respectfully saying that they don't want to hear about religion, if I brought it up. We can all be adults here. Why do we need to have comments that we don't like removed so nobody else can possibly see them or benefit them, just because they didn't help us? That seems childish to me. I very rarely report things unless they are really horrible or hurting many people. If it's just something I found a little irritating or offensive, I can ignore it.

And again, I don't think it's right to treat other people poorly when they are being respectful just because you've had bad experiences with other people like them in the past.

Arguing over whether or not my analogy was perfect is unnecessary. Analogies aren't perfect. I think you both have brains and reason and can understand what I meant, even if the analogy wasn't perfect. Let's move on.

 

Well, that definitely wasn't the case when I got in trouble for it. It was one guy who got mad that I was talking about God, even though the OP of the thread was fine with it, and I still got in trouble. So if that's supposed to be the stance, then I guess whoever the mod was dropped the ball on that one.

If everything you said is really what it is, then I have no issue with that.

Believe me, I understand that, and it drives me crazy when people complain constantly about censorship here. I've defended your right to take down whatever you want many times, because this is your site, and you can do what you want. I don't always agree, but you're obviously free to make those decisions.

 

I don't believe in religion and nor will I ever do a vegan diet (I do feel bad for animals though), but I don't care what other people think or believe and they are free to have their own honest opinions. It's when they attack me personally or what I believe in is when I get upset.

Like for instance I have been questioned and ridiculed for why I eat meat to even my very own beliefs on things like being an atheist. Nobody has any right do such a thing and I take aim at people who belittle, shame, force, manipulate, bully, and try to convert others to their fad or personal belief because it's "better" for you regardless of what that person thinks or believes.

If somebody says they're not interested, don't believe in something you're explaining to them, or they just don't want to try it, then it should be left at that and it's time to move on. And if nobody was attacked then I don't think comments should be deleted, there's a lot of stuff said on here I don't like and usually I keep it to myself unless they're outright insulting my core beliefs and what not. That's how I look at it anyway

 

I think you're being ridiculous here. No one can possibly know how every person will understand their comments. At times my comments have been completely misunderstood.

 

I think that's fair. But to be clear, I'm not advocating for cluttering the forums with theist discussions either. If I mention something God related and then someone starts asking me a bunch of questions about God instead of whatever the topic is, I would take that to a private message. But sometimes discussing religion or God as an option for healing or whatever isn't off topic from the discussion at all, like if someone is struggling with their self worth or the meaning of life or something.