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Everything you need to know about women attraction - 5 years experience with life hacks

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by sephhh, Mar 16, 2018.

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  1. Beekay148

    Beekay148 Fapstronaut

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    Well, I have not received that much attraction from women (probably only 3?) but it doesn’t matter though, they’re not my priority.

    I just created this account today and I’m wanna ask, back then I was on NoFap for 2 months straight, I felt so motivated and energised that I can literally go to the gym almost everyday and I even have plans to start my own company etc.

    But after that I went to a flatline phase ,relapsed and lost all that drive.

    I recently started NoFap again and I’m on 1 month now but however, I do not feel that same surge of energy I had back when I was on NOFAP for 2 months(I shower cold water, I drink plain water and I exercise. Energy levels are there but it’s not the same as what I had before) I’m wondering what could I possibly do to attain that again..
     
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  2. MrMurk

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    To give direct answer to what you wonder... just be patient

    You're doing great! You already include cold shower, drink plain water and exercise.

    And if that isn't enough, I'm guessing you're also actively seeking for more ways to improve!

    It will come, it will come. Your sexual energy is like water. And you're building a dam now by withholding PMO. Eventually the water wants to flow beyond the dam. Your task is to channel this water/energy properly :)!
     
  3. sephhh

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    Questionite thank you for your comment; we can’t look back at our failures because it serves no purpose for our now and future! Also, thank you for taking the time to read my journal

    MarekvBeek thank you for your comments! It’s good to hear what you have to say, thank you. You’re the only other person who has said that animals like them more on nofap. It goes to show that this energy has vibrancy that transcends all levels of life.

    Fehr, maybe a good point. I understand your skepticism I was there too. I stumbled on it without realizing what was going on. Luckily for me not many people I know are aware of nofap so that’s more women for me :p jk Lol. Both male and female are promiscuous. Girls are just fickle and don’t know what they want most of the time. That’s why we have to show them what they want. Supply before demand. ;)

    Beekay148, I agree with MarekvBeek. The women attraction really took off after 60+ days. And I know for a fact that it just takes patience.

    I really struggle with my thoughts between 2-4 weeks of this journey. I felt like I had a breakthrough yesterday; I woke up and I was just exhausted of it and the mental fight I have to do to change my thought process. And just like that, it was gone; I felt it just lift off of me the pressure the thoughts had on me. I suppose it’s hard to explain exactly how it felt. It just feels easier. I’m in Puerto Rico in Rincon right now and there are so many hot girls everywhere at this surf competition that corona has fascilitated. I’m not getting any attention but then again, that makes sense. I’m not there yet only day 26 after all! Neither do I really care right now to be honest.
     
  4. Objectively I know you're right, and I'll often give similar advice when commenting to others. It's just difficult to argue against decades of evidence. My motivation for undertaking nofap was primarily experimental in nature, which is why I haven't decided to join a gym or undertake any rigourous physical activities. This may change over time, but I'd like to see how long I progress, and what changes occur within me, before I decide to make another change.

    I'll often turn my mind elsewhere when it decides to fantasize (which is happening a good deal more in the last few days). I'm sure it would be very nice to admire the scenery, but, like you, I'd rather see how much better I would be in a few weeks time. Whilst it would be unfair to use your experiences as a yardstick, the optimist within has got the notepad ready to record what happens from Day 55 onward.
     
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  5. sephhh

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    Yeah, I do too when it comes to fantasizing; but it’s tough day in and day out to have to constantly change from it. I don’t fantasize long; it just comes in like a storm. I definitely feel much more in control of it now. Yeah I agree about your yardstick point, there’s no way to measure it cause we all have different experiences with it. I become a very outgoing person with nofap. Just put yourself out there and smile! I will update you guys with the girl situations I come across with this journey here. And I welcome you to do the same thing here :)

    I would love to hear your story at that 55th day! :)
     
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  6. Beekay148

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    I almost relapsed today by going to a porn website but I quickly got hold of my self and closed it. Aaah all because I saw a chick in a tight dress yesterday that triggered me. Gotta snap out of it
     
  7. MrMurk

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    Good you know where it came from. These happen to be the same triggers for me as well. Even FB pictures of girls can trigger me. The more you recognize these triggers, the better you can handle them and just say to yourself: "ah, there is another trigger again." And you just let it pass.

    @sephhh I really like your story man. I read your journal halfway. Your story resonates a lot with my story.

    I've struggled for a very long time with MJ and Booze problems. I haven't read your whole journey, but how is that going for you now?

    Actually the same behaviour pattern occured to me when I started to try to quit.

    First "try" and start a challenge for how long I can stop. Then I relapsed. Tried again... Relapsed...

    Until I decided it was enough. The benefits of drinking and smoking were no benefits anymore. So I decided to change my life then and there, for good.

    One thing that really helped me on my journey was talking to other people. You've mentioned this before. Loneliness is the trigger for relapses.

    I see you want to achieve financial success, which is good I think. You should do what makes you happy, and if that's financial success then that's what you should do.

    Find a good girl, build a life and build a family. That's how it is for me.

    My family is my motivation! I want to have a girl and have a family with her, and I can't do that if I go back to the old Marek.

    So it makes me wonder, what is your "why"? And how are you going to achieve financial success? Are you going the entrepreneur route or the corporate route?
     
  8. Failures are lessons- successes are just a series of failures that have been overcome. The old cliche that 95% of a time a pilot is off course and what he is really doing is 'correcting'.

    Again, it sounds like a cliche but the way to show true, healthy regret about the past is to not waste today.
     
  9. sephhh

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    Thank you for your interest in my journey. It has been a rough time and I have A LOT of experiences with nofap. I haven’t stopped drinking or smoking MJ; but I don’t do them like I used to. I won’t hold onto MJ and only do it with friends and drinking I don’t drink heavily so it hasn’t been a problem like before. Regardless, I agree that stopping it completely should be considered.

    I am an independent insurance adjuster and I work disasters. On the side I’ve been investing in cryptocurrencies. I have been successful in this even in the downed market; it will turn around soon and I am ready for it! Lol. After that I am interested in real estate and commercial properties. I also enjoy writing as a hobby and I know nofap will increase my creativity. I travel a lot and am trying to move to Puerto Rico to gain tax benefits. I will have to live here for 183 days of the year to do this. Then I’ll be in Florida, Maryland or Utah.

    My why is the same as yours, I want a family and children more than anything in the world. Also, I suffer from my major depression if I fap, I am the happiest person ever with nofap. It is literally night and day different for me which is why I also have such dramatic attraction stories lol. I have to accomplish something in my life, I’m so exhausted of not doing anything and coasting through life. I am hungry for something to be proud of. Nofap is the beginning and it’s not going to solve everything, I know that. But it is huge for me. I’m 30 years old now and my twenties were tough; but I have to do this. Thank you again for your interest in my journey/s. I know that the comradery here and sharing each other’s stories gives daily hope and brings together likeminded people! Thank you :)

    That was a great message to wake up to. Thank you. I agree 100%. Thanks for the comment! :)
     
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  10. sephhh

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    The law of attraction is an interesting one to understand because it's a sublaw to the law of polarity. Your mind, body and spirit work together to create your essence and your reality. This world is built to give you whatever it is you ask for. Thats why our demons work on our minds. The devil doesn't have to tie you up for you to be bound, he just has to tie up your head!
    Bare with me with this idea/thought process. There's more to it but while watching porn you are watching a woman and man have sex, among other fetishes yes of course. But what you are doing is placing your energy into other women having sex with other men. So the universe delivers that to you. You don't get the women, but rather watch all of these other men have the women that you want. You are unknowingly pushing away women with your energy. Just a thought to think about! :)
     
  11. sephhh

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    Two of my ex’s contacted me today; one of them that called was from an unknown number. At first I didn’t know. I would say it was the only girl that I ever truly fell in love with; I last spoke to her a few months ago. I picked up the phone and said, “hello,” a bunch of times. I heard nothing. Then all of a sudden, moments later, I heard her voice, “hello?” My heart dropped, I forgot the power she had over me. Last I spoke to her she said she was talking to someone. She couldn’t hear me, it was obvious there was something wrong with the cell service. She hung up. She didn’t call back. Neither did I. Although I loved her, she broke my heart with lies. I can’t ever be involved with her again. I miss her every single day and there’s not a day that goes by that I don’t think about her. Last I did nofap I was with her for 6 months two years ago.

    The other ex that called me I didn’t pick up.

    I guess this is a sign of the beginning stages of attraction as stated in prior posts. I’m nearly 4 weeks in.
     
  12. Beekay148

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    Yeah, why watch people banging each other online when you can go out there and have the real thing right? Its a struggle to avoid it but once you manage to grasp yourself and snap out of it, i believe it will enhance your self control, which is why cold showers are one of the suggested routines.

    By the way, i read through your post and it seems like you're into investments too! I am not knowledgeable on it but i intend to do the same thing such as Real Estate and commercial properties (like you said) and along with some investment bonds with the government. I was looking through Cryptocurrencies too but i am not quite sure if i want to invest as it dropped alot recently (best time to invest but at the same time you wouldn't know if it will rise back up in value like before). The reason why i want to open an investment portfolio is that i want to create multiple sources of income (of course i have to expect losses along the way) and open up my own company (I have not planned what i intend to do yet, but at least the intention is already there to slowly build up) as i am sick of being a normal worker without any real progression.

    And also about your Ex, could it be due to NoFap? hmm but what i could say is that, please don't fall and lose yourself over love. I understand how it can be since i was involved in a relationship with a women i loved so much but then ever since i broke out of it, i learned not to put so much hope in anyone before because it will only let you down further if they don't meet your expectations
     
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    In my case i do lose majority of benefits after one fap session and i have gone multiple 30+ days with NoFap you can see my experience here

    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...iple-1-month-nofap-experiment-results.161927/

    When i am on NoFap i may do something like this.... at 8pm ill go to the gym...cant wait and then ill fap at 7pm and feel tired lazy and like shit and say eh ill just go later and end up not going but instead fapping again after few minutes/hours.
     
  14. Infinitepotentialforyou

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    Hey please tell me what are the effects of nofap and semen retention on brain.
    Thanks your post is very good and i agree with you on many levels
     
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    I thank you deeply for these insights and experiences. I once had a decent streak and I can assure it's much like you've described.

    You've just put fuel on a fading Fire.
     
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    nice post
     
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  18. Kareza

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    Interesting observation sephhh lol; a bit of a reversal of a good woman (true to you), who would stay long before the money. Nonetheless point taken. A side-effect, with the allure of money they may not be as quick to leave. (Choosing simply to put up with). Distinguishing the reason behind their prolonged stay will be necessary; is it out of love or for other reasons.

    Appreciate your examination Questionite, of the seekers progressively changing goals. (Never thought of people singularly pursuing the various successes but balancing atleast 2 of them). Now you did not; altogether drop out spiritual growth; I don't think. (correct me; if I'm wrong). Just that it was nolonger the main goal? What became the main goal and why? How did it overtake spiritual growth?

    +1 Pursue it fearlessly to completion. An additional helpful redirection of energy that could also be beneficial to others. [Those familiar with hallucinogenic drugs speak of obtaining visions and these experiences must be anchored to the physical world (be of some benefit to/in the physical), otherwise its as useful as a sleeping dream]. (Disclaimer not condoning the use of recreational drugs). Your company Beekay can be (as so to speak) a way of bringing something tangible from your journey.

    (Note to add link to Hacking Your Flow State - Jason Silva 1:00)
     
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  19. First of all, welcome to the forums, @Kareza. I look to reading of you reaching your goals.

    My main goal became seeking an income. As time ground on in my mid-twenties, I realised that I would feel more comfortable with a steady income behind me. I declined acceptance to a couple of tertiary courses in favour of getting a stable job. I got one, and found that work, even hard work, is mostly about just showing up. Sure, I didn't want to start work at 0300, cleaning toilets and answering stupid questions, but if I wanted the money, that was something that was required. Over time, I proved my competence, and was accepted into a training programme for my current job. It pays well (ridiculously so if ask the local newspaper), and while the hours and stupid questions are still bad, there are at least no toilets that I need to clean.

    This has, however, come at a cost to me. I have neglected certain areas of my life, spiritual growth being one of them. I wouldn't go so far as to be dismissive of others seeking it, but for a long time I was wondering what I had seen in it. My recent streak has me wondering about all of these neglected, including my spiritual development. I'm remembering with some fondness the calm I felt meditating after a yoga class, of how one or two people in my sphere noticed real potential in me, even when I was masturbating (though nowhere as much I was later on). I have issues that I've always known were there but haven't dealt with, (confidence being one of them), and while I don't think it is necessarily required for spiritual growth, I do think it is required for human growth.

    Thank you for the insight.
     
  20. elevate

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    You make women sound like mystical fools that impulsively do things at the whim of your semen retention. That's not how a mature and secure woman behaves.

    Your energy and success depends too much on your streak. That's a limit you've placed on yourself. You need a certain number of days to feel good and your world crashes when you relapse.

    There are plenty of successful (financially and with relationships) people who partake in daily pmo. There are plenty of unsuccessful people who partake in nofap. The vice versa for both is true as well.

    The fact that those women changed their tune about you immediately after a relapse leaves me to believe that they were insecure and immature young women who weren't interested in who you are as a person in the first place. Also that you're emotionally sensitive to outcomes (relapses and streaks) which leads to self destruction and feeling good (high highs and low lows).

    What you need to know about women is that they're whole human beings just like everyone else.
     

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