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Cured ed de (nofap and more)

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by FAPGR, Nov 2, 2015.

  1. FAPGR

    FAPGR New Fapstronaut

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    Sorry for any mistakes, English isn't my mother tongue)

    Yes! I finally did it and can now feel really normal. All my sexual related issues already seem distant and it feels natural and not that big of a deal to perform as I should in bed. But how did I manage to overcome five years of suffering and almost a decade of excessive pmo? Well, this is my story. It's kinda long but very interesting(I believe).

    I'm a 25 year old guy who is considered by the opposite sex as good looking, polite, even sexy and mysterious. I've always beenn in a great shape and I'm very outgoing and have lots of friends. So what went wrong? You see, I was a very good student and during highschool I focused on getting good grades. I also had acne so was kinda scared of females as I thought they wouldn't like me or wouldn't think I was cool. Turns out I was wrong as I did manage to have my first kiss at age 17 with my highschool crush who was maybe the prettiest girl in class. She was obviously more experienced than me(I mean she wasn't a virgin) but she said to a friend of hers that I was the best and most passionate kisser she had ever had. So it seems like I was afraid for no reason. So you'd think that things would go right from then on...well not exactly.

    You see I then finished with school and went to the university where all the friends I made were not virgins and most of the girls too. So I was terrified. My solution was to pretend I wasn't a virgin as well. It worked as no one thought I would be as I wasn't timid at all but then I found myself not being able to attract girls. That must have been due to the pmo cause it was after highschool that I went deep in it. I guess I couldn't attract them sexually. I would getnfriendzoned all the time.

    Finally around age 21 I met this girl and started dating. We got really close, fell in love(which was easy for me cause I didn't have any experience and her too as she had only been with one guy for like two months and it was awful, sex and all). I thought it was finally my chance to have sex and start having more confidence. But it didn't happen so easily. I found out that I couldn't stay hard for more than a minute or even get it up at times. I blamed anxiety and inexperience for everything, mostly for the fact that II couldn't put a condom.

    She was troubled but loved me and could wait as I pleased her immensely in every other possible way but we were only able to have a full sexual experience about a yer later. That's when the ed stopped and the de began. I could last for hours but couldn't finish. I thought she was a saint for being so patient with my situation(she would turn out to be a bitch in the future).

    Meanwhile I continued pmo as I thought it wasn't the problem. That's when I discovered nofap, about 2,5 years ago. I told her about it and that it could really help our relationship and my problem. She was okay and applauded my sincerity. I would let her down. I had some two week streaks and then would relapse and start pmo more to a point were I'd have ed for some days after or would have a swollen penis. It was funny looking and tragic at the same time.

    We continued being together although I was getting tired of her, angry with her, easily bored and stuff like that. I'm now sure that even though it wasn't meant to last as we're very different people with almost no things in common and different opinions altogether, a lot of the problems we had came from my issue and the fact that it helped me become more indifferent about her. But we didn't break up because of that, which may sound weird. I moved to another city so we talked about trying the long distance relationship thingy. It didn't work even though I tried more. It was when we broke up, that I started a serious NoFap period.

    It was almost 50 days without pmo that I met a girl in my new city and went out for some dates. Things looked good although I wasn't that attracted to her. Just wanted to have sex and see if the nofap challenge was doing nanything for me. I know it sounds bad. In then went again to my old city for a couple of weeks for some university stuff and reconnected with the ex. It was just sex, it felt better but still couldn't come. I was so disappointed that I started pmo again. Pathetic.

    We had sex a few times again during those two weeks but since I saw she was viewing it as more, I told her we should stop seeing each other band continue with our lives. She continued by starting dating my best friend in my old town just a week after I left. Yeah! She went there.

    I was disgusted and disappointed and then started blaming my sexual issues. I wanted to move on but had two problems. Any attempt at nofap wouldn't last more than two weeks so I believed I wouldn't come with anyone and as she was the only one I had been with(and she only had one before me who was smaller in penis size), I thought that if I found a more experienced girl she might think I'm small. This was a fixation of mine probably due to porn and some months had to pass and two girls later would convince me that I'm not just average, but quite big. But I'll get there later.

    Son about a month after I found out about my ex girlfriend and my ex friend, I started using tinder as it would be easier to start a conversation. Here girls on tinder don't look for sex immediately, but I had three dates and they went well as I got the kiss at the first date. I told you I'm quite good looking and charming. The first had issues with her ex, the second had to travel so we left it there. The third one would be the best. She was veeeeery experienced. I'd say too experienced. I believed I would be able to come with her as she wanted to do everything with me. I always blamed a bit my ex for the fact that she didn't do anything kinky in bed and didn't even give me bjs. She thought it was gross. So I beloved that in the hands of a master of the art of sex, I would have all my problems solved.

    Well no. I could make her come easily, she said I was fantastic in everything I did but still I couldn't perform as I wanted. After a while she thought I didn't like her that much, she felt inadequate and so she broke up with me. It didn't hit me hard. She was hot, and great in bed but I knew what I needed to do to succeed and really feel the pleasure I'm being given. There were no more excuses. That was four months ago.

    Almost two months passed where I pmoed twice but not like crazy, just one o. And then I met her. Oh my god, I knew from the first day that she was a keeper. I couldn't lose her but couldn't lie to her. So I told her everything before we even had sex. She was cool with it, she saw it as a challenge, making me come for the first time during sexual intercourse. She was that into me, and so was I of course.

    The first time we slept together, we didn't intent to have sex, but it happened and we got carried in the moment so we had unprotected sex. We trusted each other even though it was just the beggining and we knew each other for about a week. It was my first time without a condom and I always thought that I would come instantly as it would feel amazing. It felt better but not amazing and I didn't come. It was great as I felt a connection with her but I was disappointed I couldn't come. But she was so supporting and would tell me to not think about coming, to live the moment. Every time it felt better and better and then came the day that changed everything.

    I was in a 30 day nofap streak once more, obsessed at reaching the 90 days thinking that once I got there, every problem would be solved. I relapsed! Yeap! Five seconds of porn, with pornstars not even undressed and I came easier than ever. It didnt feel enjoyable. It was obvious thay my brain was sending a message for orgasm just by opening a tab woth porn material. The next day I felt miserable and had a total flatline. I felt awful, she was cool and positive as always and reminded me how many times we've had great sex and how many more will come. When I went home I pmoed once more. It was a test. I felt nothing, didn't get hard. This porn was giving me nothing. It was just triggering something that would lead to me coming without even beingnfully erect.

    I decided I've had enough and that I finally understand. All the other times I was on a nofap streak, I was afraid I would relapse cause I believed that even though it was bad for me, pmo was very enjoyable. Plus I was obsessed with counting days, with the meaning of days, with reading other nofap experiences and with the whole guide to nofap. I found out that none of that mattered. The only things that mattered was me understanding that the real pleasure is with another human being, whom I love and have a real connection. And you may think our understand but many of you don't and that's why you struggle. You have to truly think of pmo as the same as watching a CSI episode. It can be intriguing but it's repetitive, boring and there are so many better things you could do with your time.

    So even though I had pmoed a day before and had a flatline, the next day when I went to my girlfriend's house, I knew what I wanted, I left it all at the past, I only thought about how much I love her and got carried away in the moment. I came for the first time in my life during sexual intercourse and it felt incredible, right and not hard at all. I didn't need an hour, I came in about 15-20 minutes. I've had an orgasm every time since and everything is normal. The whole ed and de seems already like a year ago, even though it's only been a couple of weeks. I know I'm cured. I finally am and if you're wondering, of course I'm not pmoing again. It's pointless, not really enjoyable and I don't even have to think about not doing it. I won't. It's that simple. It's no longer in my mind and nor are the days of nofap. Of course I know it's about two weeks but I won't care about the time I reach 90 days, 900 or over 9000. I just know I will reach and surpass those numbers and at the same time I'll continue having healthy sex. Thank you for your time and I hope you're as lucky as I am to find your perfect match and I also hope that you become masters on your thoughts and your mind in general.
     
  2. Examined Life

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    Dude nofap is not easy. You might feel it's easy now, but new phases will come. You can't know if you will reach 900 days until you do. So be cautious and don't forget why you are doing this.
     
  3. sirfapstinence

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    @FAPGR
    Thank you for sharing your story. It was refreshing and different for a change. It was great reading your background story and I'm glad you've achieved what you set out to do.
     
  4. FAPGR

    FAPGR New Fapstronaut

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    Of course nofap isn't easy. But that's if you still find some pleasure in fapping. That's what I discovered. I've fapped about 10 times in the last year, so it's not like I don't know what I was up against. But this time it's different, this time I saw real progress and achieved what I thought would never happen. I really have no reason to fap again and the best thing is that I'm not thinking about it and don't think I have a problem anymore. It's the first time I feel I'm really in control.
    In my opinion, getting obsessed with the days and the terms, chaser, flatline etc make things worse. It's my first and last thread here as I believe that being an active member of this community can be detrimental for your progress. It's a good place to learn about stuff and see that you're not the only one with this problem but then again you have to take control of your life and be serious about it. Thinking of nofap, makes you think of pmo and feel like a recovering addict. Well I prefer not thinking about it and actually enjoy the pleasures of life in a way that all this seems pointless and a distant memory. However that's my opinion on the matter, you can have yours. It's just that my best run was 66 days of nofap and I still felt like an addict, I was worried that it might not have the effect I wanted, I was obsessing with the days and stuff like that. It was sure that I would relapse. Now I don't care. I just enjoy my new life and will keep doing so.
     
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  5. FAPGR

    FAPGR New Fapstronaut

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    Thank you for your kind words my friend.
     
  6. Booster

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    Its different for many people, Depends on your age, relationship with porn, mindset and circumstances.

    It can be the hardest thing in the world or the easiest, really depends on the individual.
     
  7. g2stop

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    @FAPGR well done, and I think it is a good approach.
     
  8. marcko

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    @FAPGR You are so right... One thing is to let the brain reboot and to have a braek from PMO for some period of time and then the most important part - to convince your self and to free from all the fear and inconvinience. I am in very simmilar situation at this moment. My "addiction" and passion for porn and later visiting BDSM clubs destructed my 10 years long relationship. We broke up almost 2 years ago, but until 2 month ago we still lived together. At the same time I moved out, I descovered NoFap and actually found out that my problem was porn, PMO and not my passion for sex that I was born with as I always thought.. I am visiting Psychotherapist already about 4 months (at that time I didn´t know my problem is porn) every week, and I consult all the details with the therapist also. After more than 60 days I have no urges for Porn nor real BDSM experience as I had in the past. I believe that I am able to control my self also in the future. The most important word in my last sentence was "I believe" and that is what matters. At this moment I am dating a girl from dating site - I am 43, she is 39, we both are kind of good looking people. Since we are mature people, we told each other about our past and I also told her about NoFap and everything that I have experienced. She was actually very exited about it, since she things that her partners in the past had simmilar problem, but for her I am a special person who is willing to become a better man. We already had partional sexual experience - touching, kissing, but she was very carefull not to touch me and not to go farther, so I could finish my 60 days. We found out, that we enjoy each other presence, hugs, talking, loughing and that when we feel like we want to have sex, it will just happen. No plans, no exact dates... We will just let it happen. She was also little nervous from the first sex experience as I was, but since we dropped all the fear - we both feel much better. If I will have ED the first time we will try it, none of us will panic or will be disapointed.. We have a lot of time in front of us and we like each other so much, that the sex is actually something, that might get our current relationship to another level, but it is not the main thing in the world.. I am looking forward to have a sex with her as she is, but focusing on each other as loving partners and not only sexual partners is something I was not able to do in the past. And I think that this is the goal I wanted to reach regardless if I have 60 or 90 days behind me.. Good luck FAPGR and thanks for your excelent post !!!
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2015
  9. Booster

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    hey @marcko is your psychotherapist up to speed on the effects of porn?

    Your experiences with bdsm and reboot are very similar to mine
     
  10. FAPGR

    FAPGR New Fapstronaut

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    @marcko Thank you so much for the positive comments. I wish you all the best and I'm happy that you believe in yourself and in change. It's also very good that you're in a relationship where there's trust and understanding. I'm sure you'll succeed, you have the right mindset.
     
  11. marcko

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    Hi @Booster , It is hard to say what part of the "success" is the psychotherapy. Actually when I told her that I found out I might be a porn addict and that I want to quit PMO, she was sceptic and she told me that maybe I shouldn´t be punishing my self this way. She also warned me, that NoFap might not solve all my problems and I could be disaponited at the end. I started the psychotherapy because I felt complete emtiness and no motivation in life, not because of my passion for BDSM. She helped me to understand and appreciate my self. I think it is combination of all. I threw away porn and PMO in a minute I found out that it had possibly caused many of my problems. I was in shock and at that moment I thought - I wasted big part of my life because of such a stupid habbit. She explained to me, that the shock caused that I strongly convinced my self about quitting and it made the process much easier. Regarding BDSM, she believes that it is something that I brought from my childhood. The porn just brought it to another level. The therapy is although very usefull and I think it was the best invested money in my life. I have built so much confidence just by understanding my self - why I react or behave in certain situations the way I do, why I can´t deal with stress and why I have the need to run from it (easy escape was PMO for me) . When you learn how to live with your self and you combine it with NoFap, I think that it is the best way to acheave the success. So if you are asking if I would recommend the therapist, I would say definetely yes. The therapist doesn´t have to be NoFap expert or specialist on sexual problems. The therapist works with you as with original being and helps you to find the cause of the problem. Not the way that he or she would give you advice that would solve any problem, but leads you to a point that you actualy find out your self. Good luck in your recovery !!
     
  12. Booster

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    @marcko I was mainly asking if she knew about PIED, The Coolidge effect and desensitization. Its all pretty new for many people and i just wondered if many therapists are up to speed.
     
  13. marcko

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    Hi @Booster , no she didn´t know at all. And actually I search all the information from foreing websites, since there is almost no info in my language over the internet. She also wanted from me the links to the articles and websites that I get the informations from, because it was very interesting for her.
     
  14. Booster

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    great what you have done for yourself, keep it up

    I think it will start to get a bigger audience into the mainstream as more and more men suffer from PIED, ive been with a few ladies who have all had exboyfriends with similar sexual problems. just most people dont link it to porn use.
     
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  15. Dogwood

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    Very encouraging story. However, my guess is that your periods of attempting nofap actually played a role in helping to retrain your brain. People tend to believe that the "last thing" they tried before success is the *only* factor in recovery, when it is more likely one of several things that helped.

    In any case, congratulations. You might be able to relate to this: The Lazy Way to Stay in Love
     

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