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Bi-sexuality and same sex attraction

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by alex_sober, Jan 22, 2017.

  1. alex_sober

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  2. RolZaval

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    Hey bro ive watched so much porn that doesnt fit my sexuality, that I have been questioning it. Today ive just got started with my reboot and it will be cool if we could be partners so we can help each other overcome this. Cheers!
     
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  3. Al Caporn

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    I'm in the same boat as RolZaval. I have no doubt porn has influenced my sexual preferences, or perhaps it was my way-too early sexual experiences with other boys and girls in my neighborhood but somehow at some point I became interested in things that I had not been previously interested in.
     
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  4. programmer

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    Yeah these feelings sucks.
    I'm more attracted to boys than girls
     
  5. Al Caporn

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    Were you always? Or do you think it was truly PMO induced? And if you are, maybe that's okay?
     
  6. Well I used to constantly look at porn and I was at that time so much same sex attracted as well and much rather be with a guy than a woman. I realise that looking at porn did so much stuff up my sexuality and became a huge factor of me acting out sexually with other guys and I do believe that porn did make me gay.

    Yet now I am 225 days PMO free. I could never imagine that a few years ago of even being PMO free for even a week. I was at a point that the only porn I was obsessed with was gay porn. These days of course even though I have temptations the urges to act out are not as strong as it used to be. Also I now find the prospective much of the time on acting out sexually is repulsive to me. Sure I can notice a hot looking guy but I generally don't have any real fantasies about acting out sexually. Of course I can have past memories of past same sexual experiences as well as through porn, but when I look back to it generally I see it as a period of regret to me. But I do admit there are moments where I can be tempted but going back to PMO or acting out the way I did is so not worth it.

    I know this site is a secular site but I am a man of faith and consider that God has certainly helped my journey.

    The path to being free from PMO is not easy but it is so worth it in the end. I wish you well Mr.
     
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  7. alex_sober

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    I think key is the addictive element in my bisexual obsessions: I once noticed that many gay guys desired me, maybe just because of my specific physical appearance. So this was an easy way for me to have sex -- as often and as anonymous as I wanted. Further, as a result of my own narcissism I liked it being desired by gays. And I liked it, because being desired by gays feels abusive for me, since I am clearly straight: I would never fell in love with a guy, never kiss him, never hold his hand. Engaging with a guy sexually therefore is against my will, and exactly this then provides the addictive kick, I am seeking.

    And yes: The addiction changed my sexual taste. I am so much dependend of the above mentioned kind of kick, that it is difficult for me to maintain an erection when being intimate with a woman.

    So it is all porn, in the end. It does not matter, which variant of addictive escalation one has chosen. The result always is self-destruction.
     
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  8. moonshapedpool

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    Just a brief note, but squarely in this place myself, and I've really struggled with it, esp. recently. For me it's been personal, stuck between concrete, romantic, emotional crushes/interests in specific girls interlaced with messing around esp. this last year. Recently talked about this in counseling, and when asked if I could see myself comfortably in one camp or another simply, religion aside...had to say no for both. Sex with guys, yeah more likely, but just couldn't really be romantically drawn, in love, etc... pretty depressed about it. Where I feel like PMO, however it was a factor, really exasperated the problem.
     
  9. foxtrots5

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    Hi everyone. Same situation. I've been watched a lot of porn that doesn't fit what I am. I never felt in love for a boy, never kissed. I had some girlfriends and definitely that's my story. But during the time I was flapping I had many times curiosity to see other guys (naked and their penis) and I didn't know why, but maybe was related to my porn addiction. I would like a lot to join you to pass and understand better that situation. May I? :) Thanks a lot and I apologize any mistakes on my English
     
  10. Machomachine

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    Honestly you guys dont know how hard this has hit me.
    For the longest time growing up I had never thought I would of been gay.
    I looked at straight porn religiously , club magazine, HBO softcore, ggw you name it I was aroused by it.
    It wasn't till I hit 18 I realized I didn't have a sex drive like most of my friends had.

    Curiosity told me to look at something new..and that was gay porn. I remember to this day my immediate response was hard to soft really fast.

    But over time I just got used to it.

    I am much older now but it has never gone away..I don't see myself as gay but same sex attraction to porn tells me otherwise.
    Its very frustrating because I'm always in a state of wondering if this is some sort of mental funk or not.

    I don't go out of the way to pursue men, because nothing has ever pushed me to have a relationship with one.

    But when it comes to gay porn I am instantly aroused.

    One note I do notice is that although I go through all of this I do not actually have a sex drive to people in real life..nothing is pushing me to find a mate.

    when I masturbate to gay porn my mind is telling me I have to look at porn again over and over.
    I've spent hours hell even days looking at porn.

    If I look at porn something says that felt good do it again, yet when I abstain I am lonely.
     
  11. AscendRestore

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    The necessity of "being gay" or "being straight" is really only a cultural preoccupation. Other people want you to use labels because it simplifies the task of them appraising and coordinating with you.

    But really our bodies care far less.
    I feel like I've always been gay - but is my nipple gay? Heh, probably not: the truth is my nipple has potential, it doesn't adhere to a label. (silly example, but true). Sexuality theorists often acknowledge that everyone's body has a bisexual potential - bisexuality is not the truth of you, but it is at least plausible that I would try to have sex with a woman for a million bucks you know. The potential is there, somewhere.

    I think the key is not to be obsessed or scared of the potentials in our bodies. Clearly cut out the porn!

    When you cut out porn, and you reboot, you can't know ahead of time whether your patterns of arousal and attraction will increase or decrease, shift or stay the same. But it is the one thing you can remove from your life that is demonstrably false, just a fake fantasy illusion. It is better to let real things arouse you, than the pixels.
     
  12. Jimbo1960

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    I can relate to many of these posts. I married very early (22) and was a virgin on our wedding night as was she. However, I struggled with homosexuality since a young boy and masturbated excessively thinking about being with men. I acted out 7 years into my marriage and then through 3 years of therapy to save my marriage before finally giving up and divorcing. That was in 1993 and my kids are all grown and I have grandkids now. But through all my gay relationships I've never truly been happy and it's always been fueled by gay porn and lots of masturbation. I need help with my addiction to PMO and am seeking accountability partner(s) who are willing to help me.
     
  13. Machomachine

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    I'm not trying to hurt you, but a difference between you and say me is that I never grew up watching gay porn or knowing there was a chance I was gay early on in my life.

    I remember watching lots of softcore when I was very little on my dad's black box..spending hours.
    Then when direct tv became a thing, playboy tv.

    But I never struggled with gay arousal until straight porn became boring and I tried looking at something else to get aroused.

    Nofap can't change a gay man straight or a straight man gay..it only gets rid of the mind fuckery that porn throws at you.

    I have pied, I can only get aroused if I see porn.
    When I masturbate, i become obsessive wanting to do it again and again until I lose hours of the day.
    I have death grip..only having to aggressively get off to finally get release.

    Straight men do not act out, because outside of porn and fantasy they know who they are.
     
  14. Jimbo1960

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    You might not have tried to hurt me, but you did. I've already heard this my whole life. And the last part makes it sound like your straight man comment somehow makes you superior then me or better than me. So it did hurt. Aren't we all just trying to overcome PMO regardless of gay, bi or straight? Thanks for not trying to hurt me!
     
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  15. Machomachine

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    Listen bud I don't give a shit if you are gay or straight, stop playing the bullshit victim card.
    You are gay..you even mentioned that you stuggled with homosexuality at a young age.

    So stop giving the misconception that nofap can magically change orientations. It can't but it can remove porn related problems that people get over time from constant use

    these guys have never struggled with being gay up until porn induced hocd. So my comment is aimed at straight men struggling with porn induced hocd.
     
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  16. Fap 5 Freddy

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    Straight men do not act out, because outside of porn and fantasy they know who they are.[/QUOTE]

    That's not at all true. Straight men have gay sex. So do straight women. Your idea that outside of porn and fantasy straight men know who they are is a misnomer. Straight men are no more self aware and no less capable of denial than anyone else. The idea of straight men "knowing who they are" is not in any way verifiable, it is a misconception of yours. In addition to giving up porn, your challenge is to listen to what people have to say and respond without calling people's remarks bullshit or responding with hostile comments and labelling them.
     
  17. nofepper

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    hello there

    i consider myself as straight, but i had sex with men
     
  18. Ray Ray

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    Interesting I had no clue that pied was a thing....and I honestly have never been able to get an aroused without porn. I guess because I was exposed as soon as I was able to get and erection.
     
  19. Machomachine

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    Yea man porn induced erectile dysfunction..can't get off to the real world
     

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