Asking all NoFap veterans

Oh you want legit answers do you?

1. Stop bucket washing the forum walls with questions that were well answered before you joined.

2. Decide on how you are going to approach your nofap experience (No P M or O).

3. Commit to your approach.

4. Observe all the negative effects of your withdrawal and recognize that this is your brain being a whiny bitch.

5. When you relapse, AND YOU WILL, (mine was very misogynistic erotic literature) contemplate the series of events that led to your relapse and learn to stay away from triggers as much as humanly possible.

6. Devote yourself to other areas of your life that were neglected because you were a self abusive, depressing, weak willed, laptop screen-cleaning wanker.

7. Learn to communicate with people again and open yourself up to share your thoughts and experiences. Learn that there are people out worth listening and talking to.

8. Nofap isn't just about wank addicts trying to get girls. It is a community of men and women dedicated to self-improvement and the actualization of their ideal selfs.

Make your commitment, stick to it and if you're complaining about your junk turning blue,

Wait until you notice that you remember where you left your pencil case that time (in the 5th grade)


"Legit" enough for you?


Stop asking and start living

 

Hi ChrisKush.

From my POV, it comes down to two elements: Direction + discipline.

Lets assume that you've been channelling X amount of energy into P+M+O+Fantasy, in whatever combination. In order to break your PMO & remain free of it, you need to direct that energy into more creative, healthy & life-giving ways. It's up to you to decide what that means for you.

One thing is certain - it's going to go somewhere.

In order to direct that energy into more positive areas of life & your self, you will need to apply a level of discipline - in particular, life discipline regarding the overall trajectory of your life (studies, work, relationships, learning, fitness etc) & in-the-moment discipline.

By in-the-moment discipline, I'm talking about a given moment where your mind-body starts to say, "Lets hit the fantasy bottle", "Let check out some harmless, non-porn pics of hot girls", "Lets go whack off to an erotic story", or whatever the case is.

I've gone 7 months & 6 months PMO-free in the last 2 years. I'm now on 56 days & building. Why do I believe that this time I am going to break the neck of my addiction for good? Here are a few reasons...

1. I now believe in my soul that "PMO is NOT an option" - I am 100% clear as to the damage it does.
2. I have a transparent relationship with an accountability partner.
3. I'm reconnecting with G-d, as I understand this Being.
4. I'm learning to "be" with my anxieties, fears etc, rather than reach for the "cheap" dopamine shot.
5. I want to re-discover my warriorhood - as a father, husband, son, brother & friend.

If we become clear on who we are deep down, our life's purpose & our most profound values, this will make the overcoming of life's challenges - of which PMO addiction is but one of many that you will face - that much easier.

If we start to become the men we aspire to be - not the superficial image of manhood in the media - then we will attract a woman of like kind. A woman who we find sexy, who is intelligent, strong, knowing her own mind & what she wants. A woman who will stand by us through thick & thin. A woman who appreciates that our brain is not in our dick & that we aspire to more than just getting as much sex, status & admiration as we can.

The kind of man who is a warrior, who knows the meaning of self-sacrifice & who can be honourable - even when no-one's looking & even at great cost.

The kind of man the world needs right now.

A rare breed of man.

A true warrior.

Strength!

T22.

 

Too frequent orgasm (with masturbation, it's pretty much always too frequent due to how easy it is to do), decreases the expression of androgen receptors, which are the male hormone receptors where your male hormones like testosterone and dihydrotestosterone bind and take effect. (Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12914589 )

This means someone who's using PMO regularly could have completely normal or even high testosterone levels, but experience the symptoms of low testosterone because it would have few receptors to bind to. Symptoms of low testosterone include: low sex drive, erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, low energy, low confidence, increased anxiety, trouble being assertive, etc.

With NoFap, you're halting that progress, and as your body is very good at regulating itself, it will start to recover. This means receptor function will begin to return, and receptors will up-regulate once again. As a result, you should start to see symptoms similar to those of someone with low testosterone undergoing testosterone replacement therapy, i.e: increased energy, increased confidence, reduced anxiety, more intense morning wood, lasting longer during sex, increased sex drive in general.

As we know from anecdotes of people doing NoFap - this IS what happens. So, as I mentioned at the end, one of those things is an increased sex drive. Yes, while you might have craved PMO all day, your sex drive was actually pretty shot during your PMO habit - and during NoFap it'll return to normal functioning, and be much stronger than you're used to. You'll have periods of strong urges. Periods where you'd want to sleep with every woman you see..

..However, this is all simply during the early stages of NoFap. While your libido will continue to increase, so will your self control, and you'll also start to de-sexualise things from the previous image of things you had from porn. This means you'll stop seeing men and women in such a sexual light, and see them as people primarily. Attraction and sex drive will still be there, but it'll be easy to control and in the background.

So to answer your question: Both.

 

it works differently for everyone here. Don't expect to feel and be like someone here, our minds are so different that same thing gives us different outcomes. Therefore I won;t even bother telling oyu what I felt after 4 months of no porn or masturbation

 

It did not make me horny all the time. PMO made me horny all the time. There were periods during withdrawal where I could not believe how horny I was, I attribute this to not being sexually exhausted for the first time in my life. Once I rebooted I was no longer so awestruck mesmerized and befuddled by women who are my type. I still notice them of course but I do not 'lose my mind'. Also women who push / flaunt their sexuality started becoming kinda sad and ridiculous... you notice more how uncomfortable they look on those heels and clothes... and kinda wonder why you used to be triggered by that...