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How did I ever let it get to this?

Discussion in 'New to NoFap' started by Silverback, Dec 5, 2015.

  1. Silverback

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    Firstly, to whoever in admin, please ensure that ‘Save Draft’ does what it says and it is recoverable. I estimate I’ve wasted 2 hours or so writing my feelings which has not been easy to me in the slightest. Trying to replicate has wasted yet more time. I hate talking, I hate writing even more so. It would be useful to know where the draft is saved to, locally or web based.


    Where do I begin?

    I have a wife who loves me to hell & back, how do I know this? I’ve put her through hell the last 12 – 18 months and she’s stood by me. For those of you who don’t already know her, (mj1064) have a read of her first post in particular, it hits the nail on the head. I can’t say I agree 100% but it’s very close.

    I’m an addict, pure & simple. I can’t get by without some sort of fix, mostly chatrooms on a couple of sites, I didn’t think it was a problem but like other addictions I’m aware of, I’m being surreptitious, hiding things, spending far too much money on sites (Subscriptions & Tokens) which in all honesty I really cannot afford.

    Where did this all begin? God knows really, I guess some 30 plus years ago with the advent of the PC and porn became available on line. I would watch movies, which at the time were novel to me & a great release, satisfying fantasies and thinking about it now, I’m surprised I don’t have RSI in my right wrist I was that bad. To cut a long story short I have indulged far too much to the extent I think it’s perfectly normal & fail to see why it isn’t when objections are raised. With the advent of chatrooms, I guess it started getting too personal, in 95% of cases, it was more a social thing, just chatting to the pretty girls, the odd ‘beat the meat’ session, tipping for the odd flash of tit or pussy, or more (dildos etc.) which I enjoyed watching. There are three instances where it got more than just the odd flash & poke with a toy. It did get very personal and though it’s taken me an age to admit it, they are affairs, just not physical. I became besotted by these women, supporting them financially outside of the site structure, mainly because I hate the thought of the sites taking up to 70% of whatever was contributed, why should some fat pimp benefit?

    I guess, no not guess, I know the worse thing to happen was using an escort. Not once, but twice.

    What the hell I was searching for I really can’t tell you. Our sex life is pretty amazing, there’s not anything more I could want for. So why did I use an escort? I guess I thought there was something missing, it would be an amazing experience, it would be a fulfilment of a fantasy; it was anything but. Nothing more special, nothing out of this world, but it took me two attempts to realise this, that happened over two years ago & I have never had the urge to repeat it.

    So I guess this makes me wonder why I still had the urge to carry on camming, it really is for the social interaction (with benefits), I know there will be those of you out there screaming “Bullshit”, well scream on. I have found in that environment, there are like minded souls as well, and we do enjoy the social interaction. Obviously, there is the model or in some cases two, but there is an element of conversation in there between other users in the room from all over the world that is about every day subjects & not just porn.

    Well this is my starting point, what happens next, who knows.
     
  2. Mj1064

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    Thank you for taking this step and not launching your laptop when your first draft disappeared. I love you with every beat of my heart ❤️
     
  3. Septimus

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    Welcome! It can and will get better. Keep coming back.
     
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  4. Silverback

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    It was not easy, as you could well see, but thank you just for those reassuring words, it means a lot
     
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  5. Welcome Silverback. I too have wondered how I ever ended up being addicted to something I have given up for 18 years. Our stories have many similarities and our sources of PMO are much the same. I love women and love talking to women. I love beautiful women. There is a desire for intimacy there that has taken me across boundaries that I now regret. I have hurt my wife badly and have suffered many symptoms as a result of my addiction. The Great Porn Experiment video hit me in a deep place and I have been able to resist PMO for several weeks now.It feels great. I, like you have a wonderful supportive wife that is my best friend. I couldn't do this without her. They deserve to be cherished, honoured and respected by us. So many people would give anything to be loved like that and we have been taking it for granted. All the best to you both. PM me anytime if I can help you in anyway. I have learned a lot over the past 2 years of struggle.
     
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  6. Silverback

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    Thanks for your warm welcome BH56, MJ has told me about you & your struggle, my heartfelt thanks, firstly for sharing with mj, I know it's helped her greatly, secondly thanks for replying to my thread, looks like I am running a parallel course, I can already imagine you being a close ally in the time ahead.
    Best of luck to you & your good lady as you forge your future together
    Thanks again
     
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  7. JoePineapples

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    Welcome to the site @Silverback, I've read your wife's post, and mate, you're a lucky fella. To have somebody who will stick by you and support you through this is pretty special. I understand what you mean about the social side of the cam thing, but, and you know it, there are plenty of other places you can get that kind of interaction without the pretty girls, tits and dildos. You're also lucky that you've got a great sex life, and haven't suffered the nightmare of PIED (Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction), which is what brings a lot of guys to the site. So I'm guessing your goals are to stay away from porn, and, in particular, the cams?

    With the support of your Mrs, and the openness and honesty that you've shown so far, I'm sure you can do that. Good luck.

     
  8. Silverback

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    Thanks Joe, yes I'm lucky & very grateful.
    I've had an encounter with PIED, fortunately not as bad as some I've read about
    Thanks for your encouraging words & good luck in your quest
    Cheers bud
     
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  9. Welcome, @Silverback! It's so encouraging to see a husband and wife team banning together to beat this addiction. Best of luck in your journey! I hope you find the support and accountability you need, here.
     
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    Thank you
     
  12. Silverback

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    Thank you TTS, it will be an interesting & I'm sure fruitful journey to better place for us all
    Best of luck in your quest too
     
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  13. Silverback

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    Update: -

    Well 6 days in, so far so good, feeling like a new man already, not really missed the sites or chats, mind you had a bit on my plate with other episodes outside of this so that has helped.
    Though it's still very early days, I feel a confidence that I can get out of the habits I had; boot up pc, launch emails, launch browser, glance at FB, answer emails, find chat rooms & indulge. Still doing all the above apart from chat rooms, I'm not counting my chickens yet, but hey, I'm feeling good.
    One of the mains reasons I feel so good was confiding in my kids, they have been great, very supportive to me, which has helped no end.

    I will continue to add little posts like this as my journey progresses
    Best of luck to all of you on a like journey, may you reach your goal
     
  14. This is great to hear! Having that extra accountability from your kids will, I'm sure, be a great benefit to you. The more support you have the better, especially from people who you love and don't want to disappoint.
    Stay strong :)
     
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  15. Mj1064

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    Glad you feel good coz I do too With the kids knowing too, I guess you will also be accountable to them should they ask about your progress. I know I certainly feel easier and hope this continues so we can mend the trust between us. It's better now we can discuss it without you getting your grumpy knickers on Love you ❤️
     
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  16. Silverback

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    Well thought it's about time I gave an update on where I am
    The last couple of weeks have been torturous in one sense but quite amazing in another.
    I still have the odd thoughts about a couple of the girls I chatted with regularly, wondering if they've wondered where the hell I've got to.
    But hey, am I really being that naive? I doubt they've even give it a seconds thought, how frickin gullible am I?
    Once I had that bit sorted in my head, it has made an incredible difference.
    I am now focusing what is more important to me, my wife & family.
    I have even shared this with my mother. Her reaction was very warm & supportive too, sounds like a bot of "de ja vous" , it seems my father had a similar problem, mother & I had a good chat and I feel another 10 feet taller, (which at 5' 8" is an achievement in itself).

    Seriously though, I'm feeling good in myself, I'm feeling good about all that's around me, but I really need to stay focused on the goal and watch my little green line grow day by day.
    I'm still in the woods, but the meadows are getting closer.

    Again, to all of you out there on your journeys, I wish you nothing but success and hope you reach your goals.

    If I don't get the chance before hand, I wish you & yours very best wishes to you all for Christmas
     
  17. Mj1064

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    The amount of emotions that has just sent through me has brought tears to my eyes! To know you have been thinking of 'them' immediately made my heart beat at that horrible speed; to realise that they've moved on to the next person without giving you a thought......I kind of feel sad for you that you've been 'sucked in' for so long but relieved you can finally see it this way; to know - and feel - that you are now focussing on me (and the rest of the clan) makes me feel so relieved, happy and proud of you. xx
     
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  18. Silverback

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    And we both could murder a cigarette right now :cool:
     
  19. Mj1064

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    Hell yes!!!!!!! ................But 57 days........ ;)
     
  20. WonderDNA

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    I just wanted to say that I think it's great that the two of you are working through this together... IMO that is going to pay off in large amounts, and you can end up in a better situation than ever before. Honesty is a powerful and rewarding experience, even when it makes you uncomfortable...

    It sucks that we live in a world inundated with porn and the marketing magnates are making sure that it grows stronger and seeks out younger audiences.
    Keep up the good work...

    BTW, I have a habit of recommending books that I have found helpful in my journey, and I can't help but recommend one here. It is 'The Drug of the New Millennium' by Mark Kastleman. It goes further into the similar information to Your Brain on Porn, and explains how the porn experience is so different from a true meaningful sexual experience within a committed marriage....

    Again, We are all glad here to see a couple working through this crap successfully... keep going and make every choice count, that's what it's about, little choices to just not do it...

    All the best,
    DNA
     
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